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    <p begin="00:00:00.07" dur="00:00:02.20">&gt;&gt; Hello, good afternoon<br/>everybody.</p>
    <p begin="00:00:02.27" dur="00:00:03.17">I&apos;m Susan Collins, the Joan<br/>and Sanford Weill Dean here</p>
    <p begin="00:00:05.44" dur="00:00:03.56">at the Gerald R. Ford School of<br/>Public Policy and I am delighted</p>
    <p begin="00:00:09.00" dur="00:00:02.20">to welcome all of you<br/>here this afternoon,</p>
    <p begin="00:00:11.20" dur="00:00:02.58">on behalf of the Ford<br/>School Community.</p>
    <p begin="00:00:13.78" dur="00:00:03.79">We&apos;re very honored today to<br/>be joined by a man who for</p>
    <p begin="00:00:17.57" dur="00:00:05.11">so many people became the single<br/>essential source of information</p>
    <p begin="00:00:22.68" dur="00:00:01.70">over the past months</p>
    <p begin="00:00:24.38" dur="00:00:05.41">as the dramatic transformational<br/>world changing events happened</p>
    <p begin="00:00:29.79" dur="00:00:02.79">in the Arab Spring.</p>
    <p begin="00:00:32.58" dur="00:00:03.57">We-- in a few moments, I will be<br/>introducing our speaker Sheikh</p>
    <p begin="00:00:36.15" dur="00:00:06.81">Sultan Al Qassemi, but before<br/>I do that I would like tell</p>
    <p begin="00:00:42.96" dur="00:00:03.75">to you a little bit about the<br/>origins of this lecture series</p>
    <p begin="00:00:46.71" dur="00:00:03.25">which is something that<br/>the school has been very,</p>
    <p begin="00:00:49.96" dur="00:00:02.50">very proud to host.</p>
    <p begin="00:00:52.46" dur="00:00:04.30">This is as you know is the<br/>Josh Rosenthal lecture.</p>
    <p begin="00:00:56.76" dur="00:00:03.52">Josh Rosenthal was a graduate<br/>of the University of Michigan</p>
    <p begin="00:01:00.28" dur="00:00:05.16">in 1979 and he went on to earn a<br/>master&apos;s degree in public policy</p>
    <p begin="00:01:05.44" dur="00:00:01.92">from Princeton University.</p>
    <p begin="00:01:07.36" dur="00:00:02.51">His deep interest<br/>in policy analysis</p>
    <p begin="00:01:09.87" dur="00:00:03.22">in international affairs<br/>led him to work in the field</p>
    <p begin="00:01:13.09" dur="00:00:03.84">of international finance and he<br/>was in the World Trade Towers</p>
    <p begin="00:01:16.93" dur="00:00:05.99">on September 11th of 2001,<br/>and Josh died in that attack.</p>
    <p begin="00:01:22.92" dur="00:00:02.27">His mother, Marilyn Rosenthal,</p>
    <p begin="00:01:25.19" dur="00:00:02.56">was a long-time faculty<br/>member here at the University</p>
    <p begin="00:01:27.75" dur="00:00:02.17">of Michigan and she<br/>was determined</p>
    <p begin="00:01:29.92" dur="00:00:04.53">to create a positive meaning<br/>from what had happened on 9/11</p>
    <p begin="00:01:34.45" dur="00:00:03.82">and her intent was to help<br/>fulfill her son&apos;s early optimism</p>
    <p begin="00:01:38.27" dur="00:00:03.31">about the world and the role<br/>that mutual understanding,</p>
    <p begin="00:01:41.58" dur="00:00:03.93">dialogue and analysis play in<br/>improving communities both here</p>
    <p begin="00:01:45.51" dur="00:00:02.54">in the United States<br/>and around the world.</p>
    <p begin="00:01:48.05" dur="00:00:02.26">Marilyn and a number<br/>of others worked</p>
    <p begin="00:01:50.31" dur="00:00:03.36">to establish the Josh<br/>Rosenthal Education Fund</p>
    <p begin="00:01:53.67" dur="00:00:01.61">which has enabled<br/>the Ford school</p>
    <p begin="00:01:55.28" dur="00:00:04.03">to bring leading public figures<br/>to Ann Arbor each September</p>
    <p begin="00:01:59.31" dur="00:00:03.11">to share their insights<br/>to foster dialogues</p>
    <p begin="00:02:02.42" dur="00:00:03.61">and generate a greater<br/>understanding of many ways</p>
    <p begin="00:02:06.03" dur="00:00:05.45">in which the world has changed<br/>since 9/11, and the many ways</p>
    <p begin="00:02:11.48" dur="00:00:05.34">that we can continue to help to<br/>foster and encourage that change</p>
    <p begin="00:02:16.82" dur="00:00:04.03">and are there members of the<br/>Rosenthal family who are able</p>
    <p begin="00:02:20.85" dur="00:00:02.51">to join us here today?</p>
    <p begin="00:02:23.36" dur="00:00:03.65">Welcome, it&apos;s wonderful<br/>to see you.</p>
    <p begin="00:02:27.01" dur="00:00:03.02">We&apos;re delighted that<br/>you are able to be here.</p>
    <p begin="00:02:30.03" dur="00:00:04.86">I know that Josh&apos;s sister<br/>Helen Rosenthal is watching</p>
    <p begin="00:02:34.89" dur="00:00:05.20">on our live feed and I know<br/>that there are many others</p>
    <p begin="00:02:40.09" dur="00:00:03.05">around the country who<br/>are doing so as well</p>
    <p begin="00:02:43.14" dur="00:00:02.92">so we welcome her in that venue.</p>
    <p begin="00:02:46.06" dur="00:00:03.49">I do want to make a<br/>very special thank you</p>
    <p begin="00:02:49.55" dur="00:00:03.04">to the Rosenthal family<br/>for their support.</p>
    <p begin="00:02:52.59" dur="00:00:03.19">We are very grateful<br/>to them for being able</p>
    <p begin="00:02:55.78" dur="00:00:04.03">to continue the Josh Rosenthal<br/>lecture and this dialogue.</p>
    <p begin="00:02:59.81" dur="00:00:03.02">Marilyn Rosenthal died<br/>in 2007 but I know</p>
    <p begin="00:03:02.83" dur="00:00:02.56">that she would have been<br/>extremely pleased especially</p>
    <p begin="00:03:05.39" dur="00:00:03.56">on the 10th anniversary<br/>of the events on 9/11</p>
    <p begin="00:03:08.95" dur="00:00:02.93">to welcome Sheikh<br/>Sultan here this year</p>
    <p begin="00:03:11.88" dur="00:00:01.94">as our Rosenthal lecturer.</p>
    <p begin="00:03:13.82" dur="00:00:02.92">Sheikh Sultan is a<br/>successful businessman</p>
    <p begin="00:03:16.74" dur="00:00:03.40">and he is the founder and<br/>chairman of Barjeel Securities,</p>
    <p begin="00:03:20.14" dur="00:00:02.72">a financial products company<br/>and the Managing Director</p>
    <p begin="00:03:22.86" dur="00:00:04.30">of Al Saud Company Limited which<br/>specializes in equity markets,</p>
    <p begin="00:03:27.16" dur="00:00:02.22">real estate, and construction.</p>
    <p begin="00:03:29.38" dur="00:00:02.78">He&apos;s a teacher as well,<br/>a nonresident fellow</p>
    <p begin="00:03:32.16" dur="00:00:02.62">at the Dubai School of<br/>Government and a lecturer</p>
    <p begin="00:03:34.78" dur="00:00:03.92">at the Dubai Men&apos;s College<br/>on Middle Eastern history</p>
    <p begin="00:03:38.70" dur="00:00:03.77">and entrepreneurship, but<br/>Sultan is perhaps best know</p>
    <p begin="00:03:42.47" dur="00:00:03.01">internationally for his<br/>commentary, analysis</p>
    <p begin="00:03:45.48" dur="00:00:02.23">and dissemination<br/>of social, political</p>
    <p begin="00:03:47.71" dur="00:00:02.41">and economic news<br/>from the Middle East.</p>
    <p begin="00:03:50.12" dur="00:00:03.20">He&apos;s a columnist at the<br/>national newspaper in Abu Dhabi</p>
    <p begin="00:03:53.32" dur="00:00:04.20">and he co-hosts a weekly<br/>show on Dubai Eye radio.</p>
    <p begin="00:03:57.52" dur="00:00:03.89">His columns appear regularly<br/>in the national and money works</p>
    <p begin="00:04:01.41" dur="00:00:01.88">and he&apos;s been published<br/>internationally</p>
    <p begin="00:04:03.29" dur="00:00:02.95">in the Financial Times,<br/>the Daily Star in Lebanon,</p>
    <p begin="00:04:06.24" dur="00:00:02.49">the Hoppington Post and others.</p>
    <p begin="00:04:08.73" dur="00:00:03.44">Over 78,000 follow his<br/>commentary on Twitter,</p>
    <p begin="00:04:12.17" dur="00:00:02.64">and that number exploded<br/>this past winter</p>
    <p begin="00:04:14.81" dur="00:00:03.19">when during the uprisings<br/>in Tunisia and Egypt,</p>
    <p begin="00:04:18.00" dur="00:00:02.53">his nearly instantaneous<br/>translations</p>
    <p begin="00:04:20.53" dur="00:00:02.04">of Arab language<br/>news were seized</p>
    <p begin="00:04:22.57" dur="00:00:03.90">on by English speaking<br/>journalists and observers hungry</p>
    <p begin="00:04:26.47" dur="00:00:01.83">to follow and understand<br/>the changes</p>
    <p begin="00:04:28.30" dur="00:00:01.91">that were sweeping the region.</p>
    <p begin="00:04:30.21" dur="00:00:04.49">We could not be more pleased<br/>this afternoon and honored</p>
    <p begin="00:04:34.70" dur="00:00:03.48">to welcome Sheikh Sultan<br/>Al Qassemi to Ann Arbor</p>
    <p begin="00:04:38.18" dur="00:00:03.43">and to the Ford School<br/>and I am delighted now</p>
    <p begin="00:04:41.61" dur="00:00:01.88">to welcome him to the podium.</p>
    <p begin="00:04:43.49" dur="00:00:01.02">&gt;&gt; Okay.</p>
    <p begin="00:04:44.51" dur="00:00:07.91">[ Applause ]</p>
    <p begin="00:04:52.42" dur="00:00:02.70">&gt;&gt; Thank you for that<br/>wonderful introduction.</p>
    <p begin="00:04:55.12" dur="00:00:02.19">I&apos;m not tweeting, I&apos;m<br/>just checking the time</p>
    <p begin="00:04:57.31" dur="00:00:02.44">so I don&apos;t take any<br/>of your time.</p>
    <p begin="00:04:59.75" dur="00:00:02.60">First of all, I wanna<br/>say that I&apos;m very honored</p>
    <p begin="00:05:02.35" dur="00:00:03.72">to be here amongst you,<br/>especially, you know,</p>
    <p begin="00:05:06.07" dur="00:00:04.08">considering the circumstances<br/>and I am mindful</p>
    <p begin="00:05:10.15" dur="00:00:04.52">that we are all able to be<br/>here as a result of a grant,</p>
    <p begin="00:05:14.67" dur="00:00:05.18">by the very generous family of<br/>Joshua Rosenthal who passed away</p>
    <p begin="00:05:19.85" dur="00:00:04.66">as we heard 10 years<br/>ago this month.</p>
    <p begin="00:05:24.51" dur="00:00:05.66">In fact, it&apos;s very, it&apos;s<br/>very fitting I think</p>
    <p begin="00:05:30.17" dur="00:00:03.83">that we are speaking on<br/>this occasion because a lot</p>
    <p begin="00:05:34.00" dur="00:00:04.93">of us have been affected by<br/>those horrible tragic events.</p>
    <p begin="00:05:38.93" dur="00:00:02.85">We also heard that<br/>a few months ago,</p>
    <p begin="00:05:41.78" dur="00:00:06.43">the person who planned these<br/>horrific events was, you know,</p>
    <p begin="00:05:48.21" dur="00:00:04.97">killed and in fact I had<br/>written a couple of articles</p>
    <p begin="00:05:53.18" dur="00:00:04.73">about how he had died several<br/>times before he was killed.</p>
    <p begin="00:05:57.91" dur="00:00:02.21">He had died in the<br/>streets of Cairo,</p>
    <p begin="00:06:00.12" dur="00:00:02.05">he had died in the<br/>streets of Benghazi,</p>
    <p begin="00:06:02.17" dur="00:00:03.91">he had died in the streets of<br/>Sana&apos;a, he had died in Bahrain,</p>
    <p begin="00:06:06.08" dur="00:00:03.97">he had died in Tunisia, he had<br/>died all over the Arab world</p>
    <p begin="00:06:10.05" dur="00:00:03.90">where no on or a single one<br/>of the millions upon millions</p>
    <p begin="00:06:13.95" dur="00:00:03.56">of Arab and Middle Eastern<br/>protesters even had a single</p>
    <p begin="00:06:17.51" dur="00:00:03.32">reason to say about<br/>that horrific terrorist</p>
    <p begin="00:06:20.83" dur="00:00:07.28">so the world has come full<br/>circle I think and we&apos;re ready</p>
    <p begin="00:06:28.11" dur="00:00:02.57">to talk about the future.</p>
    <p begin="00:06:30.68" dur="00:00:04.59">Now, I&apos;m gonna talk to you about<br/>four issues but before I do,</p>
    <p begin="00:06:35.27" dur="00:00:04.98">let&apos;s talk about the background<br/>of the term Arab Spring.</p>
    <p begin="00:06:40.25" dur="00:00:01.18">What is the Arab Spring?</p>
    <p begin="00:06:41.43" dur="00:00:02.60">A lot of people dispute<br/>this word.</p>
    <p begin="00:06:44.03" dur="00:00:02.09">It&apos;s not popular at all<br/>amongst some circles.</p>
    <p begin="00:06:46.12" dur="00:00:03.29">It&apos;s looked up on as<br/>being orientalist word,</p>
    <p begin="00:06:49.41" dur="00:00:02.33">a word that came from, you know,</p>
    <p begin="00:06:51.74" dur="00:00:05.61">from writers outside the Middle<br/>East region and the origin</p>
    <p begin="00:06:57.35" dur="00:00:04.19">of the word actually<br/>is by a French writer</p>
    <p begin="00:07:01.54" dur="00:00:03.19">who didn&apos;t have a<br/>very good history,</p>
    <p begin="00:07:04.73" dur="00:00:02.74">he was a Nazi collaborator<br/>so probably try</p>
    <p begin="00:07:07.47" dur="00:00:03.32">to avoid using anything he<br/>came up with but the word,</p>
    <p begin="00:07:10.79" dur="00:00:04.80">he traveled throughout the Arab<br/>world while the Ottoman empire</p>
    <p begin="00:07:15.59" dur="00:00:04.52">was collapsing and other<br/>countries were being formed</p>
    <p begin="00:07:20.11" dur="00:00:04.59">and he came up with this phrase<br/>called the Printemps Arabe</p>
    <p begin="00:07:24.70" dur="00:00:01.20">or the Arab Spring.</p>
    <p begin="00:07:25.90" dur="00:00:04.18">Until today, French<br/>journalists refer to the events</p>
    <p begin="00:07:30.08" dur="00:00:03.53">of the Middle East<br/>as Le Printemps Arabe</p>
    <p begin="00:07:33.61" dur="00:00:03.99">as in the Arab Springs,<br/>so what&apos;s the deal</p>
    <p begin="00:07:37.60" dur="00:00:02.22">with the Arab Revolutions,<br/>what&apos;s going on,</p>
    <p begin="00:07:39.82" dur="00:00:02.47">what&apos;s the background and<br/>where are we going from here.</p>
    <p begin="00:07:42.29" dur="00:00:04.76">There are things that we&apos;ll talk<br/>about in the next hour or so.</p>
    <p begin="00:07:47.05" dur="00:00:03.27">There were several<br/>studies talking</p>
    <p begin="00:07:50.32" dur="00:00:02.87">about why the Arab<br/>Spring happened?</p>
    <p begin="00:07:53.19" dur="00:00:06.78">There was a series of studies<br/>authored by a wonderful lady</p>
    <p begin="00:07:59.97" dur="00:00:03.95">who called the Arab Human<br/>Development reports in which</p>
    <p begin="00:08:03.92" dur="00:00:07.93">that talked about a human rights<br/>deficit, a freedom deficit,</p>
    <p begin="00:08:11.85" dur="00:00:02.83">economic growth that failed,</p>
    <p begin="00:08:14.68" dur="00:00:03.43">women&apos;s rights deficit,<br/>democracy deficit.</p>
    <p begin="00:08:18.11" dur="00:00:02.73">So, all these factors<br/>were there.</p>
    <p begin="00:08:20.84" dur="00:00:03.55">In fact, the Arab Spring should<br/>have happened a decade ago,</p>
    <p begin="00:08:24.39" dur="00:00:05.69">2 decades ago, maybe<br/>decades before 2011.</p>
    <p begin="00:08:30.08" dur="00:00:03.46">There was a study that<br/>found that the economies</p>
    <p begin="00:08:33.54" dur="00:00:03.01">of the Arab world<br/>actually shrank</p>
    <p begin="00:08:36.55" dur="00:00:03.76">over the past few decades,<br/>even the gulf states,</p>
    <p begin="00:08:40.31" dur="00:00:04.09">there was a negative<br/>growth of 2.8 percent,</p>
    <p begin="00:08:44.40" dur="00:00:03.97">there&apos;s a word I never heard of<br/>before called the development</p>
    <p begin="00:08:48.37" dur="00:00:03.57">so in fact we were<br/>regressing in the last 60 years</p>
    <p begin="00:08:51.94" dur="00:00:02.99">in the Arab world and there<br/>were all sorts of reasons,</p>
    <p begin="00:08:54.93" dur="00:00:04.08">that dictators would use,<br/>all sorts of excuses.</p>
    <p begin="00:08:59.01" dur="00:00:03.39">But ultimately, it was the<br/>denial of human rights,</p>
    <p begin="00:09:02.40" dur="00:00:05.30">it was the denial of the<br/>citizens&apos; rights that led</p>
    <p begin="00:09:07.70" dur="00:00:02.81">to the Arab awakening.</p>
    <p begin="00:09:10.51" dur="00:00:04.16">Two issues though that<br/>are talked about a lot</p>
    <p begin="00:09:14.67" dur="00:00:02.49">which is the role of social<br/>media and this is something</p>
    <p begin="00:09:17.16" dur="00:00:03.29">that I think I&apos;ll<br/>spend some minutes on.</p>
    <p begin="00:09:20.45" dur="00:00:04.17">There was two events<br/>that took place</p>
    <p begin="00:09:24.62" dur="00:00:05.59">in 2010 before the Arab Spring<br/>that really set the wheel</p>
    <p begin="00:09:30.21" dur="00:00:04.18">in motion for the<br/>events of 2011.</p>
    <p begin="00:09:34.39" dur="00:00:03.36">One is more famous than the<br/>other, there was the case</p>
    <p begin="00:09:37.75" dur="00:00:04.69">of a young Tunisian vegetable<br/>seller who was in a small town</p>
    <p begin="00:09:42.44" dur="00:00:03.46">that I had never heard<br/>of called Sidi Bouzid</p>
    <p begin="00:09:45.90" dur="00:00:02.44">and he was unemployed, and<br/>he had his vegetable cart</p>
    <p begin="00:09:48.34" dur="00:00:02.93">that he would wheel into<br/>the square and he was trying</p>
    <p begin="00:09:51.27" dur="00:00:03.61">to sell vegetables so<br/>a police officer comes</p>
    <p begin="00:09:54.88" dur="00:00:03.52">and you know tells him off,<br/>tells him you can&apos;t sell here,</p>
    <p begin="00:09:58.40" dur="00:00:02.44">go back, this is<br/>no place for you.</p>
    <p begin="00:10:00.84" dur="00:00:04.37">He goes back and he sets<br/>himself alight and even</p>
    <p begin="00:10:05.21" dur="00:00:04.29">in the repressive<br/>regime of Ben Ali,</p>
    <p begin="00:10:09.50" dur="00:00:04.21">in which the internet had<br/>a police officer known</p>
    <p begin="00:10:13.71" dur="00:00:04.03">as Ammar 404 who would stop<br/>you from surfing any websites.</p>
    <p begin="00:10:17.74" dur="00:00:02.62">&gt;&gt; Even in that repressive<br/>environment,</p>
    <p begin="00:10:20.36" dur="00:00:02.55">news of this young man<br/>spread like wild fire</p>
    <p begin="00:10:22.91" dur="00:00:04.90">across the blogosphere and<br/>the internet, to the extent</p>
    <p begin="00:10:27.81" dur="00:00:03.04">that the tightly controlled<br/>newspapers actually reported</p>
    <p begin="00:10:30.85" dur="00:00:04.29">on the incident, the<br/>president, former dictator went</p>
    <p begin="00:10:35.14" dur="00:00:05.89">to visit him, and on June 4th,</p>
    <p begin="00:10:41.03" dur="00:00:03.92">that young man passed<br/>away Mohammed Bouazizi,</p>
    <p begin="00:10:44.95" dur="00:00:04.43">and within 6 days the<br/>dictator was ousted.</p>
    <p begin="00:10:49.38" dur="00:00:04.33">Another event that also<br/>played a big role is,</p>
    <p begin="00:10:53.71" dur="00:00:04.03">and this is where social<br/>media comes in, is the killing</p>
    <p begin="00:10:57.74" dur="00:00:04.21">of a young Egyptian<br/>called Khaled Saeed.</p>
    <p begin="00:11:01.95" dur="00:00:01.48">Khaled Saeed was 24 year old.</p>
    <p begin="00:11:03.43" dur="00:00:02.88">They were both 24, 25<br/>years old, young kids,</p>
    <p begin="00:11:06.31" dur="00:00:02.91">so Khaled Saeed was killed<br/>by 2 police officers.</p>
    <p begin="00:11:09.22" dur="00:00:03.81">He was an IT engineer and he saw<br/>them exchanging drugs in Egypt</p>
    <p begin="00:11:13.03" dur="00:00:04.21">in the neighborhood called<br/>Sidi Gaber in Alexander</p>
    <p begin="00:11:17.24" dur="00:00:03.30">so he filmed them and they<br/>saw him, they followed him</p>
    <p begin="00:11:20.54" dur="00:00:03.08">and they dragged him out<br/>of the internet café,</p>
    <p begin="00:11:23.62" dur="00:00:04.71">we call it internet cafe<br/>back there, and they beat him</p>
    <p begin="00:11:28.33" dur="00:00:03.79">to a pulp to the-- and then,<br/>you know, they didn&apos;t care</p>
    <p begin="00:11:32.12" dur="00:00:02.60">about him, they just wanted<br/>to take the video footage,</p>
    <p begin="00:11:34.72" dur="00:00:03.52">and photos of him went<br/>viral on the internet.</p>
    <p begin="00:11:38.24" dur="00:00:02.83">These police officers<br/>were sentenced to 4 days</p>
    <p begin="00:11:41.07" dur="00:00:02.62">and that was it, for<br/>beating a young man up.</p>
    <p begin="00:11:43.69" dur="00:00:03.75">So what happened was young<br/>Egyptians started a Facebook</p>
    <p begin="00:11:47.44" dur="00:00:02.85">page called We Are<br/>All Khaled Saeed</p>
    <p begin="00:11:50.29" dur="00:00:04.45">and it got thousands<br/>upon thousands of members</p>
    <p begin="00:11:54.74" dur="00:00:05.93">on that Facebook page<br/>and in order for them</p>
    <p begin="00:12:00.67" dur="00:00:02.05">to identify each other,<br/>reach out to each other,</p>
    <p begin="00:12:02.72" dur="00:00:03.25">social media was the only<br/>medium, and so what they decided</p>
    <p begin="00:12:05.97" dur="00:00:04.01">to do was they decided to dress<br/>in black, and go and stand</p>
    <p begin="00:12:09.98" dur="00:00:03.61">on the streets of Alexandria,<br/>on the Cornish carrying--</p>
    <p begin="00:12:13.59" dur="00:00:01.69">some of them carrying<br/>their bibles,</p>
    <p begin="00:12:15.28" dur="00:00:01.47">some of them carrying<br/>their Korans,</p>
    <p begin="00:12:16.75" dur="00:00:04.87">some of them just you know<br/>dressed in black standing next</p>
    <p begin="00:12:21.62" dur="00:00:04.58">to each other but leaving a<br/>few yards difference, maybe 6,</p>
    <p begin="00:12:26.20" dur="00:00:04.90">7 yards between them and why did<br/>they do that because Egypt was</p>
    <p begin="00:12:31.10" dur="00:00:03.48">and continues to be under<br/>state of emergency which means</p>
    <p begin="00:12:34.58" dur="00:00:04.02">that no more than 4 or 5<br/>people can congregate together</p>
    <p begin="00:12:38.60" dur="00:00:03.45">in a room without an official<br/>permit, so they were able</p>
    <p begin="00:12:42.05" dur="00:00:04.56">to bypass this law that says<br/>that you can&apos;t be together</p>
    <p begin="00:12:46.61" dur="00:00:02.33">by standing next to<br/>each other like this</p>
    <p begin="00:12:48.94" dur="00:00:03.40">and then the next person<br/>a few yards away like that</p>
    <p begin="00:12:52.34" dur="00:00:03.43">and in complete silence<br/>for several hours a day</p>
    <p begin="00:12:55.77" dur="00:00:02.39">over a period of few days.</p>
    <p begin="00:12:58.16" dur="00:00:03.10">And everybody knew<br/>why they were there.</p>
    <p begin="00:13:01.26" dur="00:00:02.75">Everybody knew that these young<br/>men and women were unhappy</p>
    <p begin="00:13:04.01" dur="00:00:02.59">about the death of<br/>this young gentleman.</p>
    <p begin="00:13:06.60" dur="00:00:03.28">The administrator of<br/>that Facebook page,</p>
    <p begin="00:13:09.88" dur="00:00:02.87">you might have heard of<br/>him, his name is Wael Ghonim</p>
    <p begin="00:13:12.75" dur="00:00:02.56">and he was the young Google<br/>executive who was detained</p>
    <p begin="00:13:15.31" dur="00:00:03.07">for 11 days during<br/>the Egyptian uprising.</p>
    <p begin="00:13:18.38" dur="00:00:03.01">So what happened on social<br/>media, these young men</p>
    <p begin="00:13:21.39" dur="00:00:03.02">and women decided and<br/>this was by the way,</p>
    <p begin="00:13:24.41" dur="00:00:02.65">many of you don&apos;t know this,<br/>this was decided before the fall</p>
    <p begin="00:13:27.06" dur="00:00:02.92">of the Egyptian-- of<br/>the Tunisian dictator.</p>
    <p begin="00:13:29.98" dur="00:00:04.25">They identified the 25th<br/>of January as the date</p>
    <p begin="00:13:34.23" dur="00:00:02.87">where they want to<br/>go and protest</p>
    <p begin="00:13:37.10" dur="00:00:02.53">and that&apos;s why it&apos;s called<br/>the January 25th revolution</p>
    <p begin="00:13:39.63" dur="00:00:02.03">but why January 25?</p>
    <p begin="00:13:41.66" dur="00:00:04.61">Because that is the day, that<br/>day is police day in Egypt,</p>
    <p begin="00:13:46.27" dur="00:00:02.96">that day Egyptians<br/>celebrate police day,</p>
    <p begin="00:13:49.23" dur="00:00:02.74">because the police were, you<br/>know, gave them a lot of cause</p>
    <p begin="00:13:51.97" dur="00:00:02.44">to celebrate, so but the reason,</p>
    <p begin="00:13:54.41" dur="00:00:02.47">actually the reason why<br/>they chose January 25,</p>
    <p begin="00:13:56.88" dur="00:00:03.48">was that was the day that most<br/>police officers were off duty.</p>
    <p begin="00:14:00.36" dur="00:00:01.00">[ Laughter ]</p>
    <p begin="00:14:01.36" dur="00:00:01.80">&gt;&gt; And they were able to march</p>
    <p begin="00:14:03.16" dur="00:00:02.60">on the streets while the police<br/>officers were on holiday,</p>
    <p begin="00:14:05.76" dur="00:00:03.70">and the beginning of the<br/>revolution, in the beginning</p>
    <p begin="00:14:09.46" dur="00:00:04.36">of the uprising, people<br/>demanded 3 things.</p>
    <p begin="00:14:13.82" dur="00:00:01.34">I&apos;ll say them I Arabic.</p>
    <p begin="00:14:15.16" dur="00:00:02.63">Aysh, hurriya,<br/>ditthinijjhakkhantiya, bread,</p>
    <p begin="00:14:17.79" dur="00:00:04.36">freedom and social justice<br/>but by the 28th of January,</p>
    <p begin="00:14:22.15" dur="00:00:04.48">there was a huge crack down and<br/>several people, many people,</p>
    <p begin="00:14:26.63" dur="00:00:03.06">dozens in fact had died<br/>in the first few days</p>
    <p begin="00:14:29.69" dur="00:00:06.29">and then they started chanting<br/>we want the end of the regime.</p>
    <p begin="00:14:35.98" dur="00:00:01.72">Let&apos;s go back a few months,</p>
    <p begin="00:14:37.70" dur="00:00:01.62">what&apos;s the deal with<br/>social media?</p>
    <p begin="00:14:39.32" dur="00:00:02.73">What is social media<br/>in Arab world?</p>
    <p begin="00:14:42.05" dur="00:00:01.51">Is it really that important?</p>
    <p begin="00:14:43.56" dur="00:00:02.65">Did it really play<br/>that decisive a role?</p>
    <p begin="00:14:46.21" dur="00:00:05.71">Now the Arab world consists<br/>of about 300 million people,</p>
    <p begin="00:14:51.92" dur="00:00:05.66">about 75 percent are under 29<br/>so it&apos;s a very young region</p>
    <p begin="00:14:57.58" dur="00:00:06.99">of the world, 20, 25 percent of<br/>them unemployed, imagine that?</p>
    <p begin="00:15:04.57" dur="00:00:04.05">That&apos;s about what, 40, 50<br/>million unemployed individuals.</p>
    <p begin="00:15:08.62" dur="00:00:02.22">Some countries don&apos;t consider<br/>women who are unemployed</p>
    <p begin="00:15:10.84" dur="00:00:02.15">as unemployed, unfortunately,</p>
    <p begin="00:15:12.99" dur="00:00:02.80">but the truth is the numbers<br/>were hovering between the 20s</p>
    <p begin="00:15:15.79" dur="00:00:06.99">and 30s, so you had this young<br/>region using social media,</p>
    <p begin="00:15:22.78" dur="00:00:02.27">Facebook for instance,<br/>penetration.</p>
    <p begin="00:15:25.05" dur="00:00:05.59">January 2010, you had 11.9<br/>million users of Facebook</p>
    <p begin="00:15:30.64" dur="00:00:04.51">in the Arab world, December<br/>2010, 12 months later,</p>
    <p begin="00:15:35.15" dur="00:00:03.81">you had 22 million users<br/>of social media in the--</p>
    <p begin="00:15:38.96" dur="00:00:02.23">or Facebook in the Arab world.</p>
    <p begin="00:15:41.19" dur="00:00:03.64">Number of Twitter users,<br/>several tens of thousands.</p>
    <p begin="00:15:44.83" dur="00:00:05.12">By the end of the revolution,<br/>5 and a half to 6 million.</p>
    <p begin="00:15:49.95" dur="00:00:04.40">Now, keep in mind there are<br/>300 million Arabs so that means</p>
    <p begin="00:15:54.35" dur="00:00:03.34">that it was a sort of<br/>an elite instrument,</p>
    <p begin="00:15:57.69" dur="00:00:02.54">not everybody had<br/>access to social media.</p>
    <p begin="00:16:00.23" dur="00:00:04.96">Less than 10 percent of Arabs<br/>had access to social media,</p>
    <p begin="00:16:05.19" dur="00:00:03.37">but what social media allowed<br/>them to do was to reach</p>
    <p begin="00:16:08.56" dur="00:00:02.74">out to each other, it allowed<br/>them to identify each other,</p>
    <p begin="00:16:11.30" dur="00:00:02.81">find the common slogan,<br/>find the date</p>
    <p begin="00:16:14.11" dur="00:00:02.10">in which they would<br/>start to protest.</p>
    <p begin="00:16:16.21" dur="00:00:04.13">It allowed them to<br/>unify the slogan.</p>
    <p begin="00:16:20.34" dur="00:00:03.33">It allowed them to bypass a--</p>
    <p begin="00:16:23.67" dur="00:00:03.14">to bypass, you know,<br/>police check points.</p>
    <p begin="00:16:28.69" dur="00:00:03.96">Where I came in is<br/>this, January 2010--</p>
    <p begin="00:16:32.65" dur="00:00:05.36">2011, I had a little free time<br/>on my hands and there was the--</p>
    <p begin="00:16:38.01" dur="00:00:05.81">the Tunisians had started to<br/>protest against their dictator,</p>
    <p begin="00:16:43.82" dur="00:00:04.89">and a 150,000 of them were on<br/>the street and it was exciting.</p>
    <p begin="00:16:48.71" dur="00:00:03.43">The whole world was watching<br/>what was happening this time</p>
    <p begin="00:16:52.14" dur="00:00:01.62">in North African countries.</p>
    <p begin="00:16:53.76" dur="00:00:05.04">That is really, that<br/>was really the country</p>
    <p begin="00:16:58.80" dur="00:00:04.21">that I would have nominated<br/>to be the very last, why?</p>
    <p begin="00:17:03.01" dur="00:00:03.84">Because you had the United<br/>Nations had showered it</p>
    <p begin="00:17:06.85" dur="00:00:05.19">with praise, human development,<br/>you know women empowerment,</p>
    <p begin="00:17:12.04" dur="00:00:06.32">minority rights, the Jewish<br/>community had rights in Tunisia.</p>
    <p begin="00:17:18.36" dur="00:00:02.42">The-- all sorts of--<br/>you know all sorts</p>
    <p begin="00:17:20.78" dur="00:00:04.40">of indicators perhaps<br/>pointed to the fact</p>
    <p begin="00:17:25.18" dur="00:00:01.49">that Tunisia was<br/>a stable country.</p>
    <p begin="00:17:26.67" dur="00:00:02.99">Mind you, it had a lot<br/>of security as well</p>
    <p begin="00:17:29.66" dur="00:00:02.96">so there was no way that<br/>this would happen in Tunisia,</p>
    <p begin="00:17:32.62" dur="00:00:03.63">uprising happened, Ben Ali,<br/>Mohammed Bouazizi died--</p>
    <p begin="00:17:36.25" dur="00:00:06.63">dies, January 11th, Ben<br/>Ali flies to Saudi Arabia.</p>
    <p begin="00:17:42.88" dur="00:00:02.01">On the next day, I<br/>thought it was over.</p>
    <p begin="00:17:44.89" dur="00:00:01.19">I was like this is great.</p>
    <p begin="00:17:46.08" dur="00:00:02.05">Wow, one dictator is gone.</p>
    <p begin="00:17:48.13" dur="00:00:02.91">I mean, this is wonderful<br/>that maybe next year</p>
    <p begin="00:17:51.04" dur="00:00:02.76">or the year after, or<br/>you know a decade later,</p>
    <p begin="00:17:53.80" dur="00:00:06.30">another one will go but within<br/>48 hours Muammar Gaddafi comes</p>
    <p begin="00:18:00.10" dur="00:00:03.73">out on TV and starts,<br/>he had an average,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:03.83" dur="00:00:03.36">one of his shorter speech<br/>was about 3 hours long,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:07.19" dur="00:00:04.12">so he starts ranting and<br/>he had-- you know he had,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:11.31" dur="00:00:04.53">he really looked upset, and<br/>Gaddafi was a huge supporter</p>
    <p begin="00:18:15.84" dur="00:00:04.80">of Ben Ali that Ben Ali&apos;s<br/>palace was built by Gaddafi,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:20.64" dur="00:00:05.91">his summer home, and he<br/>only had tight relations</p>
    <p begin="00:18:26.55" dur="00:00:02.88">so Gaddafi starts<br/>saying things like,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:29.43" dur="00:00:04.69">remember Wikileaks had just<br/>released these documents about--</p>
    <p begin="00:18:34.12" dur="00:00:04.12">incriminating Ben Ali saying<br/>that he is very unpopular,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:38.24" dur="00:00:04.72">his family controls the economy,<br/>his wife controls you know--</p>
    <p begin="00:18:42.96" dur="00:00:03.25">is despised in the community.</p>
    <p begin="00:18:46.21" dur="00:00:04.23">So Ben Ali comes out, starts<br/>saying things like, lecturing,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:50.44" dur="00:00:03.92">starts things like don&apos;t<br/>believe what you read in the,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:54.36" dur="00:00:03.74">what you read in clinics, and<br/>I thought what is clinics?</p>
    <p begin="00:18:58.10" dur="00:00:01.39">And he didn&apos;t know<br/>to call Wikileaks,</p>
    <p begin="00:18:59.49" dur="00:00:01.84">so he called it clinics<br/>[laughter]</p>
    <p begin="00:19:01.33" dur="00:00:02.74">and then he started saying<br/>and don&apos;t believe what&apos;s</p>
    <p begin="00:19:04.07" dur="00:00:01.18">on bookface [laughter].</p>
    <p begin="00:19:05.25" dur="00:00:01.96">I was like, what&apos;s bookface?</p>
    <p begin="00:19:07.21" dur="00:00:01.30">This is all new words.</p>
    <p begin="00:19:08.51" dur="00:00:03.63">You know, I never heard of<br/>this stuff, so I was tweeting</p>
    <p begin="00:19:12.14" dur="00:00:02.47">and tweeting and<br/>tweeting, I was writing,</p>
    <p begin="00:19:14.61" dur="00:00:02.33">translating what Gaddafi was<br/>saying and he was insane.</p>
    <p begin="00:19:16.94" dur="00:00:02.58">He was saying things like<br/>you should be so lucky</p>
    <p begin="00:19:19.52" dur="00:00:03.38">to have Ben Ali be your<br/>president, you should apologize</p>
    <p begin="00:19:22.90" dur="00:00:03.61">to him, ask for him to come<br/>back and maybe he&apos;ll return</p>
    <p begin="00:19:26.51" dur="00:00:04.31">and you should be so lucky if he<br/>does and it was just hilarious,</p>
    <p begin="00:19:30.82" dur="00:00:02.75">I was laughing and<br/>crying at the same time,</p>
    <p begin="00:19:33.57" dur="00:00:03.30">tweeting about what this<br/>insane individual was saying</p>
    <p begin="00:19:36.87" dur="00:00:05.09">and this is where I think where<br/>the tipping point for me was.</p>
    <p begin="00:19:41.96" dur="00:00:02.78">I noticed that I<br/>had what, 5000--</p>
    <p begin="00:19:44.74" dur="00:00:03.74">6000 followers, I noticed that<br/>by the end of the next day,</p>
    <p begin="00:19:48.48" dur="00:00:02.56">I had doubled or<br/>tripled that number.</p>
    <p begin="00:19:51.04" dur="00:00:02.71">&gt;&gt; People were saying follow<br/>this guy who&apos;s translating what</p>
    <p begin="00:19:53.75" dur="00:00:03.60">Gaddafi is saying now, it&apos;s<br/>hilarious and [laughter] yeah,</p>
    <p begin="00:19:57.35" dur="00:00:04.97">and so there was about<br/>2 and a half hour speech</p>
    <p begin="00:20:02.32" dur="00:00:02.22">in which I was tweeting<br/>every 40 seconds,</p>
    <p begin="00:20:04.54" dur="00:00:02.18">so you can imagine<br/>my thumbs were very,</p>
    <p begin="00:20:06.72" dur="00:00:03.64">very sore by the<br/>end of that evening.</p>
    <p begin="00:20:10.36" dur="00:00:08.16">So then, you know, Ben Ali<br/>departs January 25 so a good,</p>
    <p begin="00:20:18.52" dur="00:00:02.46">what, a good 10 days,<br/>two weeks, between them,</p>
    <p begin="00:20:20.98" dur="00:00:02.51">we had time to crack our<br/>knuckles and you know</p>
    <p begin="00:20:23.49" dur="00:00:02.93">and the Egyptian<br/>revolution started.</p>
    <p begin="00:20:26.42" dur="00:00:02.04">We didn&apos;t know it<br/>was a revolution.</p>
    <p begin="00:20:28.46" dur="00:00:06.35">We thought it was just a protest<br/>on police day, and Mubarak shuts</p>
    <p begin="00:20:34.81" dur="00:00:05.56">down the internet, Mubarak<br/>shuts down TV, Mubarak shuts</p>
    <p begin="00:20:40.37" dur="00:00:04.45">down mobiles, Mubarak shuts<br/>down satellite channels,</p>
    <p begin="00:20:44.82" dur="00:00:03.31">Al Jazeera was chased<br/>out of Nile Sat,</p>
    <p begin="00:20:48.13" dur="00:00:01.97">you can&apos;t call internationally,</p>
    <p begin="00:20:50.10" dur="00:00:01.58">you were completely<br/>disconnected.</p>
    <p begin="00:20:51.68" dur="00:00:03.42">Now you do have countries that<br/>are not wired like North Korea</p>
    <p begin="00:20:55.10" dur="00:00:02.82">but to have a country<br/>that had a decent amount,</p>
    <p begin="00:20:57.92" dur="00:00:03.93">10 million maybe social media<br/>users in Egypt, all of a sudden,</p>
    <p begin="00:21:01.85" dur="00:00:02.07">none of them have<br/>access to information.</p>
    <p begin="00:21:03.92" dur="00:00:04.66">However, there was an ISP left,<br/>internet service provider,</p>
    <p begin="00:21:08.58" dur="00:00:03.72">basically the company that<br/>provides internet services.</p>
    <p begin="00:21:12.30" dur="00:00:03.89">One was called NOOR net, and<br/>that company or NOOR DSL,</p>
    <p begin="00:21:16.19" dur="00:00:03.28">now that company was<br/>catering to the banks</p>
    <p begin="00:21:19.47" dur="00:00:03.61">and to the brokerage<br/>firms, and the Central Bank</p>
    <p begin="00:21:23.08" dur="00:00:04.81">so they were separate than--<br/>separate from the other firms</p>
    <p begin="00:21:27.89" dur="00:00:03.26">so that company allowed a<br/>small number of Egyptians</p>
    <p begin="00:21:31.15" dur="00:00:03.24">to access the internet so what<br/>happened was there were many</p>
    <p begin="00:21:34.39" dur="00:00:03.69">several thousands of Egyptians<br/>who would tweet from Egypt</p>
    <p begin="00:21:38.08" dur="00:00:05.60">or who would call or<br/>who would-- who would--</p>
    <p begin="00:21:43.68" dur="00:00:03.78">who were able to stay in touch<br/>with the rest of the world,</p>
    <p begin="00:21:47.46" dur="00:00:02.75">only several thousands in<br/>a country of 80 million,</p>
    <p begin="00:21:50.21" dur="00:00:01.86">and these were the<br/>lifeline of Egypt,</p>
    <p begin="00:21:52.07" dur="00:00:03.22">these were really the brave<br/>men and women who kept Egypt</p>
    <p begin="00:21:55.29" dur="00:00:05.83">in touch with the rest<br/>of the world, and so,</p>
    <p begin="00:22:01.12" dur="00:00:03.26">so I was tweeting things<br/>like you know Habib al-Adly.</p>
    <p begin="00:22:04.38" dur="00:00:02.69">Habib al-Adly, he&apos;s the<br/>interior minister of Egypt</p>
    <p begin="00:22:07.07" dur="00:00:05.23">who was sentenced to 12 years<br/>on corruption a few months back.</p>
    <p begin="00:22:12.30" dur="00:00:03.58">He&apos;s going, he&apos;s undergoing<br/>another trial now with Mubarak.</p>
    <p begin="00:22:15.88" dur="00:00:02.26">So I was tweeting,<br/>I remember one day,</p>
    <p begin="00:22:18.14" dur="00:00:02.97">you know I was constant,<br/>constant, 24 hours a day,</p>
    <p begin="00:22:21.11" dur="00:00:01.07">3 weeks I didn&apos;t go to work,</p>
    <p begin="00:22:22.18" dur="00:00:02.88">I didn&apos;t do anything<br/>except watch Egypt</p>
    <p begin="00:22:25.06" dur="00:00:02.44">and I remember tweeting</p>
    <p begin="00:22:27.50" dur="00:00:03.88">about Habib al-Adly saying<br/>we&apos;re withdrawing all the police</p>
    <p begin="00:22:31.38" dur="00:00:02.28">forces from the streets, why,</p>
    <p begin="00:22:33.66" dur="00:00:02.56">because the police<br/>were implicated</p>
    <p begin="00:22:36.22" dur="00:00:03.86">in shooting live<br/>bullets at protesters.</p>
    <p begin="00:22:40.08" dur="00:00:03.95">I remember the most popular<br/>tweet I ever sent out was this,</p>
    <p begin="00:22:44.03" dur="00:00:03.81">and I memorized it because it<br/>went out several thousand times</p>
    <p begin="00:22:47.84" dur="00:00:02.61">in the original form<br/>it was re-tweeted,</p>
    <p begin="00:22:50.45" dur="00:00:03.76">and the tweet was Al<br/>Jazeera, Egyptian doctors,</p>
    <p begin="00:22:54.21" dur="00:00:04.60">we have been ordered not to<br/>report deaths by live bullets.</p>
    <p begin="00:22:58.81" dur="00:00:04.16">So these tweets really went<br/>out all over and they&apos;re--</p>
    <p begin="00:23:02.97" dur="00:00:03.32">so that meant that the police<br/>were using live bullets</p>
    <p begin="00:23:06.29" dur="00:00:03.94">against Egyptian protesters<br/>who didn&apos;t have any weapons.</p>
    <p begin="00:23:12.16" dur="00:00:02.56">And then, so Habib<br/>al-Adly, the next,</p>
    <p begin="00:23:14.72" dur="00:00:02.42">you know 3 days later withdraws<br/>all the police from the street.</p>
    <p begin="00:23:17.14" dur="00:00:03.02">Can you imagine being in<br/>Michigan, Boston, New York,</p>
    <p begin="00:23:20.16" dur="00:00:03.34">Washington, L.A., and there&apos;s<br/>not a single police officer</p>
    <p begin="00:23:23.50" dur="00:00:00.92">in the street?</p>
    <p begin="00:23:24.42" dur="00:00:01.19">How you would feel?</p>
    <p begin="00:23:25.61" dur="00:00:01.92">It&apos;s a frightening<br/>thought, you know.</p>
    <p begin="00:23:27.53" dur="00:00:01.93">Anybody can break into your<br/>house and you can&apos;t pick</p>
    <p begin="00:23:29.46" dur="00:00:02.38">up the phone and call 911<br/>and say, someone&apos;s breaking</p>
    <p begin="00:23:31.84" dur="00:00:03.76">into my house, so you had<br/>this community police started</p>
    <p begin="00:23:35.60" dur="00:00:02.08">to be formed in Egypt.</p>
    <p begin="00:23:37.68" dur="00:00:02.78">So I remember tweeting,</p>
    <p begin="00:23:40.46" dur="00:00:02.15">police officers withdraw<br/>from the streets.</p>
    <p begin="00:23:42.61" dur="00:00:01.91">Now they&apos;ve gone out of this<br/>neighborhood, now they&apos;ve gone</p>
    <p begin="00:23:44.52" dur="00:00:03.35">out of that neighborhood,<br/>reports of thugs being--</p>
    <p begin="00:23:47.87" dur="00:00:04.81">you know going into that<br/>area and I had my TV</p>
    <p begin="00:23:52.68" dur="00:00:03.34">and I had my laptop and I had<br/>my iPhone and I had my headset,</p>
    <p begin="00:23:56.02" dur="00:00:02.40">and I was completely wired<br/>you know talking on the phone,</p>
    <p begin="00:23:58.42" dur="00:00:03.81">watching TV, tweeting these<br/>things the radio, two recorders,</p>
    <p begin="00:24:02.23" dur="00:00:01.88">rewinding, forwarding,<br/>what was happening</p>
    <p begin="00:24:04.11" dur="00:00:01.96">in Egypt in those days.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:06.07" dur="00:00:03.20">I got a phone call from this<br/>guy I went to school with.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:09.27" dur="00:00:03.87">Sultan, yes, who is this, who<br/>is this, and I&apos;m tweeting,</p>
    <p begin="00:24:13.14" dur="00:00:03.79">I&apos;m like what&apos;s going on, who<br/>is it and I saw this number</p>
    <p begin="00:24:16.93" dur="00:00:01.33">from Egypt, who is this?</p>
    <p begin="00:24:18.26" dur="00:00:01.86">It&apos;s me, so I can&apos;t<br/>say his name.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:20.12" dur="00:00:02.22">It&apos;s me, I went to<br/>school with you.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:22.34" dur="00:00:00.61">We&apos;ll call him Salem.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:22.95" dur="00:00:01.74">It&apos;s me Salem, I went<br/>to school with you.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:24.69" dur="00:00:02.64">I&apos;m like Salem, what the hell,<br/>who are you, what&apos;s going on?</p>
    <p begin="00:24:27.33" dur="00:00:02.89">And he goes Sultan, I&apos;m like oh<br/>my God, my friend is calling me</p>
    <p begin="00:24:30.22" dur="00:00:02.02">from Egypt and it looks<br/>like it&apos;s interesting,</p>
    <p begin="00:24:32.24" dur="00:00:03.76">you know he was able to get<br/>a line outside the country,</p>
    <p begin="00:24:36.00" dur="00:00:01.50">this is so exciting,<br/>I&apos;m gonna ask them</p>
    <p begin="00:24:37.50" dur="00:00:01.16">about what&apos;s happening<br/>on the ground.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:38.66" dur="00:00:02.56">And he starts saying<br/>things like--</p>
    <p begin="00:24:41.22" dur="00:00:02.97">then he starts telling me,<br/>Sultan, I have to ask you</p>
    <p begin="00:24:44.19" dur="00:00:01.01">for some thing very important,</p>
    <p begin="00:24:45.20" dur="00:00:01.62">my friend is telling me<br/>something&apos;s very important,</p>
    <p begin="00:24:46.82" dur="00:00:01.59">he&apos;s gonna tell me<br/>something&apos;s very important.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:48.41" dur="00:00:01.93">Sultan, you have<br/>to stop tweeting,</p>
    <p begin="00:24:50.34" dur="00:00:02.24">he told me to stop<br/>tweeting and then people--</p>
    <p begin="00:24:52.58" dur="00:00:02.49">like dozens of comments, no,<br/>no, don&apos;t stop, don&apos;t stop,</p>
    <p begin="00:24:55.07" dur="00:00:01.66">you can&apos;t stop, you can&apos;t stop.</p>
    <p begin="00:24:56.73" dur="00:00:01.86">And then I&apos;m like oh my God,<br/>he&apos;s telling me to stop tweeting</p>
    <p begin="00:24:58.59" dur="00:00:02.78">because I&apos;m threading havoc and<br/>chaos in Cairo and in Egypt,</p>
    <p begin="00:25:01.37" dur="00:00:02.73">and people are scared because<br/>I&apos;m saying that there&apos;s no one</p>
    <p begin="00:25:04.10" dur="00:00:02.27">in the street, there&apos;s<br/>no police in the street.</p>
    <p begin="00:25:06.37" dur="00:00:06.25">And I&apos;m like oh my God, and so<br/>I say, so I say, he&apos;s asking me</p>
    <p begin="00:25:12.62" dur="00:00:04.23">to stop tweeting, and then he<br/>tells me the reasons why and I&apos;m</p>
    <p begin="00:25:16.85" dur="00:00:01.61">like I&apos;m gonna tell him I can&apos;t.</p>
    <p begin="00:25:18.46" dur="00:00:02.63">He goes, I saw your tweet, I saw<br/>that you said you&apos;re gonna stop.</p>
    <p begin="00:25:21.09" dur="00:00:02.22">You have to stop.</p>
    <p begin="00:25:23.31" dur="00:00:00.34">[ Laughter ]</p>
    <p begin="00:25:23.65" dur="00:00:01.75">&gt;&gt; So I&apos;m like I&apos;m<br/>gonna apologize to him.</p>
    <p begin="00:25:25.40" dur="00:00:01.38">You can&apos;t, you have to stop.</p>
    <p begin="00:25:26.78" dur="00:00:02.65">So I completely, I mean<br/>I ignored him and I&apos;m</p>
    <p begin="00:25:29.43" dur="00:00:03.36">like I&apos;m sorry, I can&apos;t, I<br/>understand because I&apos;m standing</p>
    <p begin="00:25:32.79" dur="00:00:02.58">in the mall and I&apos;m holding<br/>a fire hose and I&apos;m gonna,</p>
    <p begin="00:25:35.37" dur="00:00:04.43">I&apos;m gonna, you know I&apos;m going<br/>to open, what, fire hose?</p>
    <p begin="00:25:39.80" dur="00:00:00.91">Open water?</p>
    <p begin="00:25:40.71" dur="00:00:02.21">At any protest, at anyone<br/>who comes into the mall</p>
    <p begin="00:25:42.92" dur="00:00:02.64">because I have to protect the<br/>mall and I&apos;m, he was the head</p>
    <p begin="00:25:45.56" dur="00:00:01.76">of this mall or something.</p>
    <p begin="00:25:47.32" dur="00:00:03.77">So I ignored him, fortunately</p>
    <p begin="00:25:51.09" dur="00:00:02.30">and I&apos;ll tell you why I ignored<br/>him, and this is where the role</p>
    <p begin="00:25:53.39" dur="00:00:02.53">of social media comes in.</p>
    <p begin="00:25:55.92" dur="00:00:05.13">A lot of people, a lot of<br/>Egyptians were depending</p>
    <p begin="00:26:01.05" dur="00:00:03.52">on information from social<br/>media for their own safety,</p>
    <p begin="00:26:04.57" dur="00:00:03.87">I had a lot of comments, people<br/>saying thank you for tweeting</p>
    <p begin="00:26:08.44" dur="00:00:03.04">that there were thugs in<br/>the street in that corner</p>
    <p begin="00:26:11.48" dur="00:00:02.17">under that bridge<br/>in that neighborhood</p>
    <p begin="00:26:13.65" dur="00:00:03.28">because my sister was<br/>gonna go out shopping,</p>
    <p begin="00:26:16.93" dur="00:00:03.38">my brother was gonna go out to<br/>the super market, but I know</p>
    <p begin="00:26:20.31" dur="00:00:02.13">and I&apos;m driving in the streets<br/>and I&apos;m walking in the street,</p>
    <p begin="00:26:22.44" dur="00:00:02.38">I have no access to TV,<br/>the radio doesn&apos;t work,</p>
    <p begin="00:26:24.82" dur="00:00:04.62">the only thing I have is the--<br/>is my Blackberry and I can tell</p>
    <p begin="00:26:29.44" dur="00:00:03.16">that there are thugs in that<br/>neighborhood and that&apos;s why I&apos;m,</p>
    <p begin="00:26:32.60" dur="00:00:03.81">I didn&apos;t let my mom or dad or<br/>bothers or sisters go there.</p>
    <p begin="00:26:36.41" dur="00:00:03.87">So social media in a way did<br/>play a role even though it</p>
    <p begin="00:26:40.28" dur="00:00:02.70">wasn&apos;t completely decisive.</p>
    <p begin="00:26:48.06" dur="00:00:04.59">Now, what happened after<br/>Egypt, well basically,</p>
    <p begin="00:26:52.65" dur="00:00:04.57">the Middle East fell apart,<br/>you had several revolutions,</p>
    <p begin="00:26:57.22" dur="00:00:12.29">you had Bahrain, you had Syria,<br/>you had Libya, you had Yemen</p>
    <p begin="00:27:09.51" dur="00:00:07.10">of course and governments<br/>adapted to social media, how so?</p>
    <p begin="00:27:16.61" dur="00:00:02.98">In the beginning, social<br/>media was used by young folks,</p>
    <p begin="00:27:19.59" dur="00:00:03.30">young boys and girls who wanted<br/>to communicate with each other.</p>
    <p begin="00:27:22.89" dur="00:00:01.92">In the beginning they were<br/>flirting with each other</p>
    <p begin="00:27:24.81" dur="00:00:03.51">in social media and then it<br/>became a tool of survival.</p>
    <p begin="00:27:28.32" dur="00:00:04.68">But by the third Arab uprising,<br/>the social media was used</p>
    <p begin="00:27:33.00" dur="00:00:02.26">as a tool against<br/>the protesters.</p>
    <p begin="00:27:35.26" dur="00:00:05.93">You had government-affiliated<br/>accounts that we refer</p>
    <p begin="00:27:41.19" dur="00:00:04.57">to as trolls, people<br/>that you can&apos;t identify,</p>
    <p begin="00:27:45.76" dur="00:00:02.95">we have others known<br/>as-- we call them eggs.</p>
    <p begin="00:27:48.71" dur="00:00:01.15">Why do we call them eggs?</p>
    <p begin="00:27:49.86" dur="00:00:02.04">Because the default<br/>Twitter handle--</p>
    <p begin="00:27:51.90" dur="00:00:04.51">photo is an egg so people who<br/>just created accounts you know</p>
    <p begin="00:27:56.41" dur="00:00:04.48">and just to attack you,<br/>just to threaten you,</p>
    <p begin="00:28:00.89" dur="00:00:03.58">governments in the Middle<br/>East jailed bloggers,</p>
    <p begin="00:28:04.47" dur="00:00:03.76">jailed Twitter users, they<br/>used their Twitter accounts</p>
    <p begin="00:28:08.23" dur="00:00:03.21">as a proof against them,<br/>against, for instance,</p>
    <p begin="00:28:11.44" dur="00:00:02.48">against them planning a protest,</p>
    <p begin="00:28:13.92" dur="00:00:01.78">against them using<br/>you know language</p>
    <p begin="00:28:15.70" dur="00:00:02.03">that the government didn&apos;t like.</p>
    <p begin="00:28:17.73" dur="00:00:05.03">You have several social media<br/>activists who are in jail today</p>
    <p begin="00:28:22.76" dur="00:00:03.08">in the Arab world<br/>in prison terms.</p>
    <p begin="00:28:25.84" dur="00:00:04.06">Believe it or now, prison<br/>terms for re-tweeting,</p>
    <p begin="00:28:29.90" dur="00:00:01.57">just taking what<br/>someone said and saying</p>
    <p begin="00:28:31.47" dur="00:00:03.97">that person said this can vary<br/>between 3 and 10 years in jail</p>
    <p begin="00:28:35.44" dur="00:00:07.80">in the Arab world so it was<br/>completely, completely insane.</p>
    <p begin="00:28:43.24" dur="00:00:03.18">On the other hand,<br/>you have stories</p>
    <p begin="00:28:46.42" dur="00:00:05.94">where social media was a, you<br/>know was used in a good way.</p>
    <p begin="00:28:52.36" dur="00:00:03.06">Four years ago, there was<br/>a young Saudi gentleman,</p>
    <p begin="00:28:55.42" dur="00:00:06.21">Fouad al-Farhan and he had<br/>written a blog called 10 Saudis</p>
    <p begin="00:29:01.63" dur="00:00:03.90">I Never Want to Meet and<br/>it was just that innocent.</p>
    <p begin="00:29:05.53" dur="00:00:01.55">I just don&apos;t wanna<br/>meet them, he didn&apos;t--</p>
    <p begin="00:29:07.08" dur="00:00:02.19">you know he didn&apos;t say<br/>I want them to be hurt,</p>
    <p begin="00:29:09.27" dur="00:00:02.35">he didn&apos;t say I want them, you<br/>know something bad to happen</p>
    <p begin="00:29:11.62" dur="00:00:02.38">to them, he just said I don&apos;t<br/>wanna meet them, and he,</p>
    <p begin="00:29:14.00" dur="00:00:06.11">one of them was a prince, one<br/>was a clergy, one was mayor,</p>
    <p begin="00:29:20.11" dur="00:00:06.62">and one was a judge and within<br/>a short while, he was thrown</p>
    <p begin="00:29:26.73" dur="00:00:05.84">in solitary confinement between<br/>November 2007 to March 2008.</p>
    <p begin="00:29:32.57" dur="00:00:03.41">For 4 to 5 months, he was<br/>in solitary confinement.</p>
    <p begin="00:29:35.98" dur="00:00:02.72">This was over a blog post.</p>
    <p begin="00:29:38.70" dur="00:00:05.75">Fast forward 4 years, in the<br/>midst of the Arab uprisings,</p>
    <p begin="00:29:45.90" dur="00:00:04.46">that same gentleman as a result<br/>was called in by a prince,</p>
    <p begin="00:29:50.36" dur="00:00:03.47">of the prince of the western<br/>region of Saudi Arabia.</p>
    <p begin="00:29:53.83" dur="00:00:01.30">You know what, the<br/>same government</p>
    <p begin="00:29:55.13" dur="00:00:02.52">who jailed him called<br/>him in, how do you do.</p>
    <p begin="00:29:57.65" dur="00:00:03.18">Come in, tell us<br/>about your followers.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:00.83" dur="00:00:02.83">&gt;&gt; Please tell them that<br/>we&apos;re doing-- we&apos;re reforming.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:03.66" dur="00:00:01.80">Tell them that we&apos;re<br/>doing so and so.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:05.46" dur="00:00:02.52">This is how we&apos;re trying to<br/>build the infrastructure.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:07.98" dur="00:00:03.71">Say hello to you Twitter users.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:11.69" dur="00:00:04.28">So this guy, I mean imagine<br/>that, from being thrown in jail</p>
    <p begin="00:30:15.97" dur="00:00:03.15">to the power of people<br/>on social media</p>
    <p begin="00:30:19.12" dur="00:00:02.91">and the Arab world shows you.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:22.03" dur="00:00:03.31">There was another case where<br/>the Saudi women drivers,</p>
    <p begin="00:30:25.34" dur="00:00:00.86">for example.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:26.20" dur="00:00:05.85">On June 17th between 60 and 90<br/>Saudi women drove in the street</p>
    <p begin="00:30:32.05" dur="00:00:02.79">and they used social<br/>media, number 1,</p>
    <p begin="00:30:34.84" dur="00:00:03.23">to create a Facebook<br/>page, identify each other,</p>
    <p begin="00:30:38.07" dur="00:00:02.50">reach out to each other,<br/>choose a date, specific date</p>
    <p begin="00:30:40.57" dur="00:00:02.08">that they will all do<br/>this so that rather</p>
    <p begin="00:30:42.65" dur="00:00:02.63">than becoming a singular,<br/>individual effort,</p>
    <p begin="00:30:45.28" dur="00:00:02.62">it was a collective effort.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:47.90" dur="00:00:02.50">And they used the same slogan.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:50.40" dur="00:00:04.59">And the most beautiful of<br/>all in this case was the fact</p>
    <p begin="00:30:54.99" dur="00:00:04.52">that young men and women<br/>would tell them, &quot;Watch out.</p>
    <p begin="00:30:59.51" dur="00:00:01.35">There&apos;s a policeman<br/>on this road.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:00.86" dur="00:00:01.13">Avoid it. Turn.&quot;</p>
    <p begin="00:31:01.99" dur="00:00:02.53">You know, so the<br/>girls would be driving</p>
    <p begin="00:31:04.52" dur="00:00:01.18">and somebody would be reading</p>
    <p begin="00:31:05.70" dur="00:00:01.23">for them saying there&apos;s<br/>a policeman</p>
    <p begin="00:31:06.93" dur="00:00:02.84">on this junction<br/>stopping women drivers.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:09.77" dur="00:00:03.25">As a result, 2 out of<br/>the 60 were stopped.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:13.02" dur="00:00:01.58">Only 2 out of the 60 girls.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:14.60" dur="00:00:04.10">So, you can imagine that<br/>without social media perhaps,</p>
    <p begin="00:31:18.70" dur="00:00:03.18">the number might have<br/>been quite higher.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:22.97" dur="00:00:03.49">Another issue that is quite<br/>negative about social media</p>
    <p begin="00:31:26.46" dur="00:00:02.15">in the Arab world, it was used</p>
    <p begin="00:31:28.61" dur="00:00:05.74">to spread you know<br/>negative propaganda.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:34.35" dur="00:00:02.94">In the case of Libya,<br/>for instance,</p>
    <p begin="00:31:37.29" dur="00:00:06.25">there was blatant racism in some<br/>of the social media updates.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:43.54" dur="00:00:03.64">I&apos;ll give you a background<br/>in this.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:47.18" dur="00:00:03.19">Libya is a country of 5 to<br/>6 million people of which 1</p>
    <p begin="00:31:50.37" dur="00:00:05.11">and a half to 2 million are<br/>Sub-Saharan African migrants</p>
    <p begin="00:31:55.48" dur="00:00:01.04">who are working in Libya.</p>
    <p begin="00:31:56.52" dur="00:00:06.65">Now, you know-- and when--</p>
    <p begin="00:32:03.17" dur="00:00:02.96">in Gaddafi&apos;s era in 2000 when<br/>he was trying to build bridges</p>
    <p begin="00:32:06.13" dur="00:00:01.99">with Europe he went<br/>and he cracked</p>
    <p begin="00:32:08.12" dur="00:00:04.01">down on the African migrants<br/>even though the vast majority</p>
    <p begin="00:32:12.13" dur="00:00:02.93">of them were there legally<br/>but they cracked down on them.</p>
    <p begin="00:32:15.06" dur="00:00:07.18">And as a result, 150 Africans<br/>died in Libya of which,</p>
    <p begin="00:32:22.24" dur="00:00:04.63">you know, ironically, 10<br/>percent, 15 were Libyan citizens</p>
    <p begin="00:32:26.87" dur="00:00:06.01">because in Southern Libya,<br/>you have dark skinned Libyans.</p>
    <p begin="00:32:32.88" dur="00:00:04.80">And fast forward 10, 11<br/>years, the social media</p>
    <p begin="00:32:37.68" dur="00:00:04.32">from the very first date<br/>of the Libyan uprising,</p>
    <p begin="00:32:42.00" dur="00:00:05.69">you had people tweeting saying<br/>you know African mercenaries.</p>
    <p begin="00:32:47.69" dur="00:00:03.06">And imagine there were<br/>a million of them.</p>
    <p begin="00:32:50.75" dur="00:00:02.94">Can they all be African<br/>mercenaries?</p>
    <p begin="00:32:53.69" dur="00:00:04.46">So, you even had an official<br/>in Gaddafi&apos;s government</p>
    <p begin="00:32:58.15" dur="00:00:02.50">who ironically moved<br/>to the other side</p>
    <p begin="00:33:00.65" dur="00:00:04.67">and continued using the same<br/>you know vile statements</p>
    <p begin="00:33:05.32" dur="00:00:01.81">against these migrants.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:07.13" dur="00:00:05.11">So, social media in this<br/>case as well had a dual use.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:12.24" dur="00:00:04.70">Now I&apos;ll talk a little<br/>bit about the reaction</p>
    <p begin="00:33:16.94" dur="00:00:05.78">of the Gulf States<br/>where I come from.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:22.72" dur="00:00:05.96">You&apos;ve had-- so far, you&apos;ve had<br/>3 Arab populations were able</p>
    <p begin="00:33:28.68" dur="00:00:04.12">to overthrow their<br/>leader, Egypt, Tunisia</p>
    <p begin="00:33:32.80" dur="00:00:02.35">and Libya, I think so.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:35.15" dur="00:00:00.83">I mean, he&apos;s hiding.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:35.98" dur="00:00:01.63">More or less, he&apos;s overthrown.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:37.61" dur="00:00:02.90">So, but what about<br/>the Gulf States?</p>
    <p begin="00:33:40.51" dur="00:00:02.22">Now, the Gulf States are<br/>the wealthier states.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:42.73" dur="00:00:02.60">You had uprisings<br/>in the Gulf States.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:45.33" dur="00:00:04.11">You had a country to the east<br/>of the Arab world called Oman.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:49.44" dur="00:00:02.35">Oman, hundreds of<br/>people protested.</p>
    <p begin="00:33:51.79" dur="00:00:02.89">The Sultan decided to<br/>kick out the cabinet,</p>
    <p begin="00:33:54.68" dur="00:00:04.09">you know give powers to<br/>the consultive council</p>
    <p begin="00:33:58.77" dur="00:00:02.85">and that was the end of<br/>the uprising, more or less.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:01.62" dur="00:00:03.44">On the other side,<br/>you had Bahrain.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:05.06" dur="00:00:04.20">Bahrain, you have tens<br/>of thousands of people</p>
    <p begin="00:34:09.26" dur="00:00:01.10">who went out on the street.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:10.36" dur="00:00:01.55">Bahrain is interesting, why,</p>
    <p begin="00:34:11.91" dur="00:00:04.27">because it&apos;s probably the most<br/>wired country in the Arab world.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:16.18" dur="00:00:04.24">They have 200 percent mobile<br/>phone penetration rate.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:20.42" dur="00:00:00.94">It&apos;s insane.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:21.36" dur="00:00:02.92">Everyone has 2 phones, 3 phones.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:24.28" dur="00:00:02.36">You know, because, I mean,<br/>what if someone calls you</p>
    <p begin="00:34:26.64" dur="00:00:03.04">and you have another<br/>line you need to answer.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:29.68" dur="00:00:07.88">So, in Bahrain, imagine<br/>this, in 2010 one blog used</p>
    <p begin="00:34:37.56" dur="00:00:06.36">to have 100,000 hits a day in<br/>a country of half a million.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:43.92" dur="00:00:01.41">That was an insane number,</p>
    <p begin="00:34:45.33" dur="00:00:02.39">a very young population,<br/>very educated.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:47.72" dur="00:00:01.49">Once again, a country that a lot</p>
    <p begin="00:34:49.21" dur="00:00:02.29">of people didn&apos;t expect<br/>uprisings to occur</p>
    <p begin="00:34:51.50" dur="00:00:04.38">because the king<br/>had given rights.</p>
    <p begin="00:34:55.88" dur="00:00:05.54">The-- you know, there was the<br/>minorities, the Christians,</p>
    <p begin="00:35:01.42" dur="00:00:03.86">the Jews, the Hindus were given<br/>rights and they were appointed</p>
    <p begin="00:35:05.28" dur="00:00:02.40">as ambassadors, members<br/>of parliament, so,</p>
    <p begin="00:35:07.68" dur="00:00:03.28">a very progressive country<br/>but something happened</p>
    <p begin="00:35:10.96" dur="00:00:01.89">and there was an uprising.</p>
    <p begin="00:35:12.85" dur="00:00:05.10">Within a month, 2 other<br/>Gulf States sent in troops,</p>
    <p begin="00:35:17.95" dur="00:00:06.21">the uprising was put down<br/>although the dialogue continues.</p>
    <p begin="00:35:24.16" dur="00:00:03.31">But what about the other Gulf<br/>States, the other 4 Gulf States;</p>
    <p begin="00:35:27.47" dur="00:00:03.31">Saudi, U.A.E. where I come<br/>from, Qatar and Kuwait?</p>
    <p begin="00:35:30.78" dur="00:00:01.65">They are the wealthier states.</p>
    <p begin="00:35:32.43" dur="00:00:03.50">Their reaction to the Arab<br/>Spring and this is a bit--</p>
    <p begin="00:35:35.93" dur="00:00:01.27">the economics of<br/>the Arab Spring,</p>
    <p begin="00:35:37.20" dur="00:00:02.45">their reaction was<br/>very much financial.</p>
    <p begin="00:35:39.65" dur="00:00:07.29">Saudi Arabia announced in<br/>March 130 billion dollars aid</p>
    <p begin="00:35:46.94" dur="00:00:02.66">and infrastructure projects,<br/>a massive amount of money.</p>
    <p begin="00:35:49.60" dur="00:00:04.53">It&apos;s actually bigger than the<br/>aid package of the U.S. compared</p>
    <p begin="00:35:54.13" dur="00:00:02.14">to the size of the economy.</p>
    <p begin="00:35:56.27" dur="00:00:02.80">So, huge amount.</p>
    <p begin="00:35:59.07" dur="00:00:04.62">For instance, imagine<br/>this, the largest number</p>
    <p begin="00:36:03.69" dur="00:00:05.93">of jobs created overnight,<br/>130,000 jobs in which sector?</p>
    <p begin="00:36:09.62" dur="00:00:02.26">It wasn&apos;t in art<br/>and entertainment.</p>
    <p begin="00:36:11.88" dur="00:00:04.78">It was in security, 130,000<br/>security jobs created</p>
    <p begin="00:36:16.66" dur="00:00:01.94">in the Gulf.</p>
    <p begin="00:36:18.60" dur="00:00:04.75">Why? You have tens of thousands<br/>of young unemployed, unhappy,</p>
    <p begin="00:36:23.35" dur="00:00:05.72">dissatisfied young men and<br/>women but men, within a stroke</p>
    <p begin="00:36:29.07" dur="00:00:02.03">of a pen you&apos;ve got<br/>them into your security.</p>
    <p begin="00:36:31.10" dur="00:00:02.31">You would turn them<br/>to your side.</p>
    <p begin="00:36:33.41" dur="00:00:02.27">You give them jobs, now<br/>they&apos;re on your side.</p>
    <p begin="00:36:35.68" dur="00:00:03.45">Anybody thinking of protesting,<br/>you have 130,000 people</p>
    <p begin="00:36:39.13" dur="00:00:03.87">who probably will come in handy.</p>
    <p begin="00:36:43.00" dur="00:00:02.48">With regards to Egypt<br/>for instance,</p>
    <p begin="00:36:45.48" dur="00:00:01.69">now Egypt is an interesting<br/>case.</p>
    <p begin="00:36:47.17" dur="00:00:04.41">Egypt was really the balancing<br/>state of the Arab world</p>
    <p begin="00:36:51.58" dur="00:00:02.80">that had a peace<br/>treaty with Israel.</p>
    <p begin="00:36:54.38" dur="00:00:07.94">It had a regime that the<br/>world was in general happy</p>
    <p begin="00:37:02.32" dur="00:00:02.31">where it&apos;s continued to reform.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:04.63" dur="00:00:02.43">So there was-- internally,<br/>people weren&apos;t happy.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:07.06" dur="00:00:04.54">But in general, the rest of the<br/>world was happy with Mubarak.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:11.60" dur="00:00:03.19">Another thing about Egypt<br/>is that for the Gulf States,</p>
    <p begin="00:37:14.79" dur="00:00:04.70">it was a counterbalance to<br/>Iran where Iran is a threat</p>
    <p begin="00:37:19.49" dur="00:00:03.01">to the Middle East and<br/>to the Gulf States.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:22.50" dur="00:00:03.05">Egypt was the only country<br/>that had the sufficient,</p>
    <p begin="00:37:25.55" dur="00:00:01.92">especially after Iraq was<br/>taken out of the equation.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:27.47" dur="00:00:03.29">It was the only country that<br/>had the sufficient manpower</p>
    <p begin="00:37:30.76" dur="00:00:02.93">in the army of about a<br/>million people in the army</p>
    <p begin="00:37:33.69" dur="00:00:01.75">that could balance Iran off.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:35.44" dur="00:00:03.74">So for the Gulf States and<br/>for the region in general,</p>
    <p begin="00:37:39.18" dur="00:00:02.67">it was important to<br/>have a stable Egypt.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:41.85" dur="00:00:04.98">And that&apos;s why after the fall<br/>of Mubarak, the Gulf States went</p>
    <p begin="00:37:46.83" dur="00:00:04.08">to Egypt and offered so much.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:50.91" dur="00:00:03.51">Qatar, one of the smaller<br/>Gulf States offered 10 billion</p>
    <p begin="00:37:54.42" dur="00:00:02.27">dollars in investments<br/>to create a million</p>
    <p begin="00:37:56.69" dur="00:00:03.02">and a half jobs almost<br/>in building ports.</p>
    <p begin="00:37:59.71" dur="00:00:02.04">The U.A.E. offered<br/>3 billion dollars,</p>
    <p begin="00:38:01.75" dur="00:00:02.67">1 and a half billion<br/>for an SME fund.</p>
    <p begin="00:38:04.42" dur="00:00:03.11">Saudi Arabia offered 4 billion<br/>dollars and other countries</p>
    <p begin="00:38:07.53" dur="00:00:03.57">where uprisings were starting<br/>like Morocco and Jordan,</p>
    <p begin="00:38:11.10" dur="00:00:03.51">Saudi gave 2 billion<br/>dollars to Jordan</p>
    <p begin="00:38:14.61" dur="00:00:01.88">and invited them<br/>into the GCC Club.</p>
    <p begin="00:38:16.49" dur="00:00:02.63">The GCC is the Gulf<br/>monarchies club.</p>
    <p begin="00:38:19.12" dur="00:00:02.52">It&apos;s the club of the<br/>kings of the Gulf.</p>
    <p begin="00:38:21.64" dur="00:00:00.83">So, they invited Jordan</p>
    <p begin="00:38:22.47" dur="00:00:03.63">and Morocco even though Morocco<br/>last time I checked isn&apos;t</p>
    <p begin="00:38:26.10" dur="00:00:02.03">on the Persian Gulf,<br/>Arabian Gulf.</p>
    <p begin="00:38:28.13" dur="00:00:01.50">It&apos;s a bit far.</p>
    <p begin="00:38:29.63" dur="00:00:03.87">But they kind of invited them</p>
    <p begin="00:38:33.50" dur="00:00:06.45">in because they wanted this<br/>alliance of monarchies.</p>
    <p begin="00:38:39.95" dur="00:00:01.65">But is this sustainable?</p>
    <p begin="00:38:41.60" dur="00:00:00.60">Is it sustainable?</p>
    <p begin="00:38:42.20" dur="00:00:01.62">Can you buy your way?</p>
    <p begin="00:38:43.82" dur="00:00:02.05">Can you continue paying money?</p>
    <p begin="00:38:45.87" dur="00:00:02.89">It&apos;s highly unlikely that<br/>you can continue paying money</p>
    <p begin="00:38:48.76" dur="00:00:04.79">when people&apos;s demands<br/>are for more rights.</p>
    <p begin="00:38:53.55" dur="00:00:04.91">Just checking on time.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:00.20" dur="00:00:03.75">I think we&apos;re pretty much--<br/>I&apos;ll leave you with one thought.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:03.95" dur="00:00:08.56">So, you know, there<br/>are 22 Arab countries.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:12.51" dur="00:00:02.58">Some of them are monarchy.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:15.09" dur="00:00:01.49">Some of them are republics.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:16.58" dur="00:00:02.91">They&apos;re minorities,<br/>they&apos;re not all Arabs.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:19.49" dur="00:00:00.59">Some of them are Berber.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:20.08" dur="00:00:01.93">Some of them are Jews.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:22.01" dur="00:00:02.97">Some of them are Bahaists,<br/>they&apos;re minorities.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:24.98" dur="00:00:03.86">It&apos;s a mosaic really<br/>of cultures.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:28.84" dur="00:00:02.45">But what happened<br/>over the last 8,</p>
    <p begin="00:39:31.29" dur="00:00:02.94">9 months really was<br/>Arab stepping up,</p>
    <p begin="00:39:34.23" dur="00:00:01.92">Arab saying we are citizens.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:36.15" dur="00:00:02.16">We are no longer subjects.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:38.31" dur="00:00:02.42">We are citizens that<br/>we demand our rights.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:40.73" dur="00:00:03.23">Regardless of what happens<br/>over the next few months,</p>
    <p begin="00:39:43.96" dur="00:00:04.49">the truth is, 100 million<br/>Arabs are freer today</p>
    <p begin="00:39:48.45" dur="00:00:03.30">than they were just<br/>8, 9 months ago.</p>
    <p begin="00:39:51.75" dur="00:00:02.75">This can come-- you<br/>know, you can see this</p>
    <p begin="00:39:54.50" dur="00:00:02.78">as a glass half full,<br/>glass half empty,</p>
    <p begin="00:39:57.28" dur="00:00:05.65">but it&apos;s a rocky road ahead in<br/>which you will see a lot of ups</p>
    <p begin="00:40:02.93" dur="00:00:01.98">and downs, a lot of<br/>things that you are unhappy</p>
    <p begin="00:40:04.91" dur="00:00:02.30">with what happened,<br/>a lot of maybe--</p>
    <p begin="00:40:07.21" dur="00:00:05.26">some Islamic political<br/>groups will come into play.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:12.47" dur="00:00:02.24">Frankly, I&apos;d rather<br/>have them in politics</p>
    <p begin="00:40:14.71" dur="00:00:02.63">than have them elsewhere.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:17.34" dur="00:00:04.48">But the truth is, not everything<br/>will go the way we want it to go</p>
    <p begin="00:40:21.82" dur="00:00:03.06">but the trajectory<br/>is very positive.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:24.88" dur="00:00:04.23">In the long term, I believe we<br/>will only see a better Middle</p>
    <p begin="00:40:29.11" dur="00:00:03.07">East because of the<br/>Arab awakening.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:32.18" dur="00:00:01.33">Thank you.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:33.51" dur="00:00:08.66">[ Applause ]</p>
    <p begin="00:40:42.17" dur="00:00:00.62">&gt;&gt; Thank you very much.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:42.79" dur="00:00:04.04">He has finally agreed to<br/>take questions and we will go</p>
    <p begin="00:40:46.83" dur="00:00:03.23">until no later than 5:30.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:50.06" dur="00:00:02.21">&gt;&gt; So, just put your hand up.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:52.27" dur="00:00:02.66">Identify who you are<br/>for the rest of us.</p>
    <p begin="00:40:54.93" dur="00:00:01.38">&gt;&gt; Hi, I&apos;m--</p>
    <p begin="00:40:56.31" dur="00:00:02.05">&gt;&gt; Do we have mics or just--</p>
    <p begin="00:40:58.36" dur="00:00:02.12">[ Inaudible Remark ]</p>
    <p begin="00:41:00.48" dur="00:00:04.03">&gt;&gt; I would.</p>
    <p begin="00:41:04.51" dur="00:00:50.94">[ Inaudible Remarks ]</p>
    <p begin="00:41:55.45" dur="00:00:01.93">&gt;&gt; Okay, the question<br/>was do you think the role</p>
    <p begin="00:41:57.38" dur="00:00:02.22">of social media will<br/>become less effective</p>
    <p begin="00:41:59.60" dur="00:00:04.07">as civil society grows?</p>
    <p begin="00:42:03.67" dur="00:00:01.19">Definitely.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:04.86" dur="00:00:07.24">Yes, I think part of the reason<br/>why social media is so prevalent</p>
    <p begin="00:42:12.10" dur="00:00:02.08">in the Arab world, why<br/>people depend on it</p>
    <p begin="00:42:14.18" dur="00:00:02.36">so much is the avenues<br/>of communications,</p>
    <p begin="00:42:16.54" dur="00:00:01.65">the official avenues are shut.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:18.19" dur="00:00:03.52">There is no way to form<br/>civil society movements.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:21.71" dur="00:00:01.78">The government has<br/>to appoint a head</p>
    <p begin="00:42:23.49" dur="00:00:02.54">of the movement,<br/>of the association.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:26.03" dur="00:00:04.25">Your agenda is very much set<br/>for-- is set by the government.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:30.28" dur="00:00:03.67">That&apos;s why social media<br/>really isn&apos;t a huge tool here</p>
    <p begin="00:42:33.95" dur="00:00:02.05">in American because<br/>you can just go apply</p>
    <p begin="00:42:36.00" dur="00:00:03.05">and start your civil<br/>society movement, you know,</p>
    <p begin="00:42:39.05" dur="00:00:02.44">within a few hours, I<br/>think in the States.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:41.49" dur="00:00:02.55">I think this is definitely<br/>the case.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:44.04" dur="00:00:04.38">Perhaps with the freer<br/>countries, you will see less</p>
    <p begin="00:42:48.42" dur="00:00:02.51">and less use of social media.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:50.93" dur="00:00:04.00">However, there are a lot of<br/>countries that will not be free</p>
    <p begin="00:42:54.93" dur="00:00:01.46">in the next year or two.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:56.39" dur="00:00:02.80">This, the Arab awakening<br/>is a generational issue.</p>
    <p begin="00:42:59.19" dur="00:00:02.82">It will take decades,<br/>if not generations.</p>
    <p begin="00:43:02.01" dur="00:00:01.84">And so, I think you<br/>will continue</p>
    <p begin="00:43:03.85" dur="00:00:03.95">to see a role for social media.</p>
    <p begin="00:43:07.80" dur="00:00:01.47">Yes sir?</p>
    <p begin="00:43:11.16" dur="00:00:04.98">&gt;&gt; Hi, my name is<br/>Jacob Thompson.</p>
    <p begin="00:43:16.14" dur="00:00:01.26">I&apos;m a doctoral student</p>
    <p begin="00:43:17.40" dur="00:00:01.86">at American University<br/>in Washington.</p>
    <p begin="00:43:19.26" dur="00:00:03.72">D.C. [Inaudible] and my<br/>question, the last time,</p>
    <p begin="00:43:22.98" dur="00:00:08.79">social media more of a media and<br/>more broadly in the Arab world</p>
    <p begin="00:43:31.77" dur="00:00:01.67">and I&apos;m particularly<br/>interested in your take</p>
    <p begin="00:43:33.44" dur="00:00:01.44">over recent development<br/>for the last couple of days</p>
    <p begin="00:43:34.88" dur="00:00:01.17">with Al Jazeera and [inaudible]<br/>timing and stepping down</p>
    <p begin="00:43:36.05" dur="00:00:01.17">and his successor which<br/>it seems is a member</p>
    <p begin="00:43:37.22" dur="00:00:01.39">of the royal family in Qatar.</p>
    <p begin="00:43:38.61" dur="00:00:05.46">I think most people recognize<br/>that Al Jazeera both Arabic</p>
    <p begin="00:43:44.07" dur="00:00:02.36">and English language has<br/>played out an important role</p>
    <p begin="00:43:46.43" dur="00:00:07.50">in what has unfolded,<br/>I think, for the past 8</p>
    <p begin="00:43:53.93" dur="00:00:03.56">or 9 months as we discussed.</p>
    <p begin="00:43:57.49" dur="00:00:04.45">But because one of<br/>the critics is</p>
    <p begin="00:44:01.94" dur="00:00:05.62">that it&apos;s becoming<br/>increasingly an instrument</p>
    <p begin="00:44:07.56" dur="00:00:04.25">of Qatar reform policy and less<br/>balanced and I&apos;d be interested</p>
    <p begin="00:44:11.81" dur="00:00:01.47">in what you think as is this<br/>at a point for Al Jazeera</p>
    <p begin="00:44:13.28" dur="00:00:01.09">or you know, his stepping down.</p>
    <p begin="00:44:14.37" dur="00:00:04.67">He hasn&apos;t really illustrated--<br/>he hadn&apos;t said the reasons why.</p>
    <p begin="00:44:19.04" dur="00:00:02.44">You mentioned Wikileaks earlier<br/>and everything is on cables</p>
    <p begin="00:44:21.48" dur="00:00:04.83">and come out saying that there<br/>is you know, a relationship</p>
    <p begin="00:44:26.31" dur="00:00:07.87">between some U.S. diplomats<br/>and what Al Jazeera do</p>
    <p begin="00:44:34.18" dur="00:00:02.43">in terms of their coverage.</p>
    <p begin="00:44:36.61" dur="00:00:06.29">So, I mean I think we&apos;ve all<br/>noted that there is a disparity</p>
    <p begin="00:44:42.90" dur="00:00:02.01">in Al Jazeera as well</p>
    <p begin="00:44:44.91" dur="00:00:02.71">as it perhaps covered<br/>what events unfolding</p>
    <p begin="00:44:47.62" dur="00:00:00.57">in Egypt and Libya.</p>
    <p begin="00:44:48.19" dur="00:00:01.44">Bahrain was completely kind<br/>of ignored to in a sense.</p>
    <p begin="00:44:49.63" dur="00:00:01.50">So, do you think that his<br/>stepping down is a sign post or?</p>
    <p begin="00:44:51.13" dur="00:00:01.23">I&apos;d be interested<br/>in your intake.</p>
    <p begin="00:44:52.36" dur="00:00:03.60">&gt;&gt; So, just to put into<br/>context Al Jazeera was a channel</p>
    <p begin="00:44:55.96" dur="00:00:01.74">that was started in 1996.</p>
    <p begin="00:44:57.70" dur="00:00:04.26">It has 50 million viewers<br/>before the Arab awakening.</p>
    <p begin="00:45:01.96" dur="00:00:03.66">Now it claims between 100<br/>to 250 million viewers,</p>
    <p begin="00:45:05.62" dur="00:00:03.88">they have an English service<br/>as well that broadcasts in D.C.</p>
    <p begin="00:45:09.50" dur="00:00:04.12">and New York here in the U.S<br/>cable and it&apos;s available online.</p>
    <p begin="00:45:13.62" dur="00:00:02.07">For the past 8 years<br/>it was headed</p>
    <p begin="00:45:15.69" dur="00:00:04.67">by a gentleman called Wadah<br/>Khanfar who I know personally,</p>
    <p begin="00:45:20.36" dur="00:00:02.96">this gentleman stopped<br/>down abruptly yesterday</p>
    <p begin="00:45:23.32" dur="00:00:04.07">and a Qatari Sheikh was<br/>appointed in his place</p>
    <p begin="00:45:27.39" dur="00:00:02.65">but the question was will<br/>this affect the entirety</p>
    <p begin="00:45:30.04" dur="00:00:01.54">of the channel and how it was--</p>
    <p begin="00:45:31.58" dur="00:00:04.34">how it covered Arab<br/>Spring, Arab awakenings.</p>
    <p begin="00:45:35.92" dur="00:00:01.93">The truth is we noticed<br/>over the last--</p>
    <p begin="00:45:37.85" dur="00:00:03.55">first of all Al Jazeera<br/>plays a huge role.</p>
    <p begin="00:45:41.40" dur="00:00:02.21">When it was kicked out of Egypt</p>
    <p begin="00:45:43.61" dur="00:00:01.93">and the satellite<br/>signal was jammed,</p>
    <p begin="00:45:45.54" dur="00:00:05.02">Egyptians would volunteer<br/>to film video and send it</p>
    <p begin="00:45:50.56" dur="00:00:05.51">to the channel, that was<br/>one of the biggest examples</p>
    <p begin="00:45:56.07" dur="00:00:04.72">of social media and what<br/>is termed as eye report</p>
    <p begin="00:46:00.79" dur="00:00:03.59">or amateur journalism<br/>but Al Jazeera,</p>
    <p begin="00:46:04.38" dur="00:00:03.11">I mean increasingly looks<br/>like it&apos;s an extension</p>
    <p begin="00:46:07.49" dur="00:00:03.28">of the foreign policy<br/>of the state of Qatar.</p>
    <p begin="00:46:10.77" dur="00:00:02.19">State of Qatar is a<br/>very dynamic country</p>
    <p begin="00:46:12.96" dur="00:00:02.52">in the in the Arab world.</p>
    <p begin="00:46:15.48" dur="00:00:02.82">At one point in time it<br/>hosted both an Israeli office</p>
    <p begin="00:46:18.30" dur="00:00:04.25">and Hamas office you know next<br/>to each other, it hosted people</p>
    <p begin="00:46:22.55" dur="00:00:06.02">from you know from different<br/>factions around the Middle East,</p>
    <p begin="00:46:28.57" dur="00:00:05.93">so it&apos;s a very dynamic<br/>country, however, the coverage</p>
    <p begin="00:46:34.50" dur="00:00:02.95">of Al Jazeera in the<br/>last 6, 7 months kind</p>
    <p begin="00:46:37.45" dur="00:00:04.86">of metered what was happening<br/>within the Qatari government.</p>
    <p begin="00:46:42.31" dur="00:00:04.59">Now, which one needs the other,<br/>I&apos;m not sure but for instance</p>
    <p begin="00:46:46.90" dur="00:00:02.08">with Libya, Qatar<br/>was the first country</p>
    <p begin="00:46:48.98" dur="00:00:03.05">to recognize the transition<br/>of the national council,</p>
    <p begin="00:46:52.03" dur="00:00:03.70">and Libya&apos;s coverage was<br/>very much slanted towards</p>
    <p begin="00:46:55.73" dur="00:00:02.22">the revolutionaries.</p>
    <p begin="00:46:57.95" dur="00:00:04.56">I mean all, even-- regardless<br/>of what our feelings were</p>
    <p begin="00:47:02.51" dur="00:00:03.74">on an individual basis,<br/>you have to report very,</p>
    <p begin="00:47:06.25" dur="00:00:05.66">very fairly with regards<br/>to the Egyptian uprising.</p>
    <p begin="00:47:11.91" dur="00:00:03.90">It also mirrored the<br/>ruling family&apos;s policy</p>
    <p begin="00:47:15.81" dur="00:00:03.02">or the state&apos;s policy.</p>
    <p begin="00:47:18.83" dur="00:00:04.74">Yemen, same thing,<br/>relations with Israel</p>
    <p begin="00:47:23.57" dur="00:00:02.36">when they were going well,<br/>Jazeera got a lot of coverage.</p>
    <p begin="00:47:25.93" dur="00:00:02.55">When they were going<br/>back state level wise,</p>
    <p begin="00:47:28.48" dur="00:00:04.45">the reporters weren&apos;t given<br/>permits, et cetera, et cetera.</p>
    <p begin="00:47:32.93" dur="00:00:03.78">So I don&apos;t know if we are<br/>coupling them together</p>
    <p begin="00:47:36.71" dur="00:00:01.30">or they are coupled together</p>
    <p begin="00:47:38.01" dur="00:00:03.27">but there is definitely a<br/>correlation between the channels</p>
    <p begin="00:47:41.28" dur="00:00:01.72">and there&apos;s nothing<br/>wrong with that,</p>
    <p begin="00:47:43.00" dur="00:00:02.75">because you&apos;ve seen other<br/>instances here with Voice</p>
    <p begin="00:47:45.75" dur="00:00:02.62">of America, Radio Free<br/>Europe, in the States.</p>
    <p begin="00:47:48.37" dur="00:00:02.37">You also have the<br/>BBC, which was fun--</p>
    <p begin="00:47:50.74" dur="00:00:02.18">which is till funded by<br/>the British Foreign Office</p>
    <p begin="00:47:52.92" dur="00:00:05.36">so why can&apos;t Qatar<br/>have the same kind</p>
    <p begin="00:47:58.28" dur="00:00:02.40">of relationship with<br/>its media arm.</p>
    <p begin="00:48:00.68" dur="00:00:03.69">But definitely without<br/>that channel,</p>
    <p begin="00:48:04.37" dur="00:00:02.35">things would have gotten much,<br/>much more bloodier I think.</p>
    <p begin="00:48:06.72" dur="00:00:03.47">The revolutions will happen<br/>sooner or later but I think</p>
    <p begin="00:48:10.19" dur="00:00:03.80">that having a TV, having the,<br/>there was a famous quote,</p>
    <p begin="00:48:13.99" dur="00:00:01.46">that Wadah Khanfar said.</p>
    <p begin="00:48:15.45" dur="00:00:04.73">He was getting messages from<br/>Egyptians where they had cameras</p>
    <p begin="00:48:20.18" dur="00:00:03.80">on Tahrir Square saying please<br/>don&apos;t switch the cameras off</p>
    <p begin="00:48:23.98" dur="00:00:02.59">because if you do, a<br/>massacre will occur</p>
    <p begin="00:48:26.57" dur="00:00:03.43">so this was the general<br/>mood that you have a camera</p>
    <p begin="00:48:30.00" dur="00:00:02.75">so people can see what&apos;s<br/>happening live and so you have</p>
    <p begin="00:48:32.75" dur="00:00:02.48">to behave yourself as<br/>a dictator, not you</p>
    <p begin="00:48:35.23" dur="00:00:02.15">but whoever the dictator is.</p>
    <p begin="00:48:37.38" dur="00:00:01.30">Yes sir?</p>
    <p begin="00:48:38.68" dur="00:00:01.81">&gt;&gt; Steve Simon [phonetic],<br/>a resident of the community.</p>
    <p begin="00:48:40.49" dur="00:00:02.89">You mentioned earlier<br/>in your remarks</p>
    <p begin="00:48:43.38" dur="00:00:02.36">that the region has been subject</p>
    <p begin="00:48:45.74" dur="00:00:03.01">to negative economic<br/>growth for decades.</p>
    <p begin="00:48:48.75" dur="00:00:03.70">Now while that&apos;s been due to<br/>[inaudible] supporting things</p>
    <p begin="00:48:52.45" dur="00:00:05.24">with the advent of democracy,</p>
    <p begin="00:48:57.69" dur="00:00:03.75">I think democracy<br/>requires a viable economy.</p>
    <p begin="00:49:01.44" dur="00:00:01.84">Do the people taking over power</p>
    <p begin="00:49:03.28" dur="00:00:02.87">in the region understand<br/>what they need to do</p>
    <p begin="00:49:06.15" dur="00:00:05.39">to create viable economies and<br/>certainly, on a related way,</p>
    <p begin="00:49:11.54" dur="00:00:02.66">any advice from you<br/>to other countries</p>
    <p begin="00:49:14.20" dur="00:00:01.93">of the world including<br/>the U.S. in terms</p>
    <p begin="00:49:16.13" dur="00:00:04.53">of our foreign policy what we<br/>need to do to sustain growth</p>
    <p begin="00:49:20.66" dur="00:00:02.59">in the economy aside<br/>from petrol dollars?</p>
    <p begin="00:49:23.25" dur="00:00:01.34">&gt;&gt; Okay, well, I&apos;ll<br/>ask a question.</p>
    <p begin="00:49:24.59" dur="00:00:06.99">I&apos;ll come back to you in<br/>a minute, next question.</p>
    <p begin="00:49:31.58" dur="00:00:03.54">Basically, the world has given--<br/>has been giving these countries</p>
    <p begin="00:49:35.12" dur="00:00:01.78">that have witnessed<br/>the Arab uprising,</p>
    <p begin="00:49:36.90" dur="00:00:02.52">they have been giving<br/>them a lot of money</p>
    <p begin="00:49:39.42" dur="00:00:05.10">but do you have the<br/>institutions that can, you know,</p>
    <p begin="00:49:44.52" dur="00:00:02.66">distribute this funding,<br/>first of all?</p>
    <p begin="00:49:47.18" dur="00:00:01.58">What about corporate<br/>governments?</p>
    <p begin="00:49:48.76" dur="00:00:01.74">Corporate governments<br/>were very poor</p>
    <p begin="00:49:50.50" dur="00:00:04.07">in the Arab world before,<br/>how about afterwards?</p>
    <p begin="00:49:54.57" dur="00:00:00.76">It&apos;s not clear.</p>
    <p begin="00:49:55.33" dur="00:00:02.81">Libya, there&apos;s a complete<br/>breakdown in a system</p>
    <p begin="00:49:58.14" dur="00:00:02.62">that didn&apos;t even exist in<br/>the first place, that just--</p>
    <p begin="00:50:00.76" dur="00:00:02.40">it looked like there<br/>was a system there.</p>
    <p begin="00:50:03.16" dur="00:00:03.84">Egypt still has-- you know,<br/>they still have their NGOs</p>
    <p begin="00:50:07.00" dur="00:00:04.10">and their civil society<br/>movements, et cetera.</p>
    <p begin="00:50:11.10" dur="00:00:02.83">So it&apos;s not really<br/>one single case,</p>
    <p begin="00:50:13.93" dur="00:00:02.05">Yemen also needs a lot of help.</p>
    <p begin="00:50:15.98" dur="00:00:03.89">There were calls for an<br/>Arab bank for reconstruction</p>
    <p begin="00:50:19.87" dur="00:00:04.04">and development, much like<br/>what was created in Europe,</p>
    <p begin="00:50:23.91" dur="00:00:02.52">the European Bank for<br/>reconstruction and development.</p>
    <p begin="00:50:26.43" dur="00:00:02.34">200 billion dollars<br/>have been pledged</p>
    <p begin="00:50:28.77" dur="00:00:03.75">for the Arab countries<br/>including 38 billion</p>
    <p begin="00:50:32.52" dur="00:00:05.54">from the G8 countries, so money<br/>will-- should be available,</p>
    <p begin="00:50:38.06" dur="00:00:01.83">whatever-- Whether<br/>this money materializes</p>
    <p begin="00:50:39.89" dur="00:00:01.39">or not is a different story,</p>
    <p begin="00:50:41.28" dur="00:00:03.19">but I think what&apos;s<br/>important is the mechanism</p>
    <p begin="00:50:44.47" dur="00:00:01.26">to distribute these funds.</p>
    <p begin="00:50:45.73" dur="00:00:02.94">Corporate governments,<br/>they have to insist</p>
    <p begin="00:50:48.67" dur="00:00:02.56">that this money is going<br/>to a specific cause rather</p>
    <p begin="00:50:51.23" dur="00:00:03.21">than to fill up the pockets<br/>of corrupt individuals.</p>
    <p begin="00:50:54.44" dur="00:00:02.58">You have the second part of<br/>your question, I can&apos;t remember.</p>
    <p begin="00:50:57.02" dur="00:00:01.52">Advice to the Americans?</p>
    <p begin="00:50:58.54" dur="00:00:01.45">I mean Americans are mature,</p>
    <p begin="00:50:59.99" dur="00:00:02.16">I don&apos;t think anyone should<br/>be giving Americans advice</p>
    <p begin="00:51:02.15" dur="00:00:05.00">but it&apos;s just, it&apos;s you know,<br/>it&apos;s just it&apos;s easier if we,</p>
    <p begin="00:51:07.15" dur="00:00:04.49">if the Middle East or the<br/>rest of the world knows</p>
    <p begin="00:51:11.64" dur="00:00:03.57">where America stands<br/>so it can react</p>
    <p begin="00:51:15.21" dur="00:00:02.27">and they can plan their future.</p>
    <p begin="00:51:17.48" dur="00:00:06.43">America has a lot of clout,<br/>has a lot of, even has a lot</p>
    <p begin="00:51:23.91" dur="00:00:01.89">of goodwill, American people<br/>have a lot of goodwill</p>
    <p begin="00:51:25.80" dur="00:00:02.08">in the Middle East,<br/>a lot of respect,</p>
    <p begin="00:51:27.88" dur="00:00:01.61">a lot of people wanna move here.</p>
    <p begin="00:51:29.49" dur="00:00:06.03">You know, I think America just<br/>needs to clarify its position</p>
    <p begin="00:51:35.52" dur="00:00:04.55">with regards to certain<br/>governments in the Arab world,</p>
    <p begin="00:51:40.07" dur="00:00:03.94">with regards for example to<br/>the Middle East peace process.</p>
    <p begin="00:51:44.01" dur="00:00:02.28">The clearer the position is,</p>
    <p begin="00:51:46.29" dur="00:00:04.34">the easier these countries<br/>can deal with America.</p>
    <p begin="00:51:50.63" dur="00:00:02.01">There was call for<br/>an Obama doctrine,</p>
    <p begin="00:51:52.64" dur="00:00:01.66">is there an Obama doctrine?</p>
    <p begin="00:51:54.30" dur="00:00:00.53">I&apos;m not sure.</p>
    <p begin="00:51:54.83" dur="00:00:03.03">I&apos;ll come back to<br/>you after this.</p>
    <p begin="00:51:57.86" dur="00:00:01.23">Yes please.</p>
    <p begin="00:51:59.09" dur="00:00:04.25">&gt;&gt; How has the Arab uprising<br/>affected your [inaudible]</p>
    <p begin="00:52:03.34" dur="00:00:06.53">finance and security, how<br/>has that affected the market?</p>
    <p begin="00:52:09.87" dur="00:00:01.69">&gt;&gt; Oh, some countries<br/>are doing very well,</p>
    <p begin="00:52:11.56" dur="00:00:01.91">some countries are<br/>booming actually.</p>
    <p begin="00:52:13.47" dur="00:00:03.25">There&apos;s, I mean, where<br/>I come from, in Dubai,</p>
    <p begin="00:52:16.72" dur="00:00:03.59">the airport is booming,<br/>it&apos;s so crowded, the ports.</p>
    <p begin="00:52:20.31" dur="00:00:01.59">&gt;&gt; [Inaudible] has not affected.</p>
    <p begin="00:52:21.90" dur="00:00:02.88">&gt;&gt; No, but some countries<br/>have a negative growth like,</p>
    <p begin="00:52:24.78" dur="00:00:01.60">for example, in Bahrain,</p>
    <p begin="00:52:26.38" dur="00:00:02.98">Egypt has 8 to 10<br/>million tourists a year,</p>
    <p begin="00:52:29.36" dur="00:00:03.11">how many tourists have you heard<br/>of who went into Egypt recently?</p>
    <p begin="00:52:32.47" dur="00:00:00.74">I mean, the number is much,</p>
    <p begin="00:52:33.21" dur="00:00:03.01">much less than what the<br/>country needs for instance.</p>
    <p begin="00:52:36.22" dur="00:00:05.48">If there is one tourist here who<br/>went to Egypt in this room, we--</p>
    <p begin="00:52:41.70" dur="00:00:03.02">So, really it&apos;s a mixed bag.</p>
    <p begin="00:52:44.72" dur="00:00:02.30">However, because it&apos;s a<br/>very young population,</p>
    <p begin="00:52:47.02" dur="00:00:04.59">I think that that the<br/>growth will be very positive</p>
    <p begin="00:52:51.61" dur="00:00:03.27">for the region from 2012 and 13.</p>
    <p begin="00:52:54.88" dur="00:00:01.95">Maybe one more point.</p>
    <p begin="00:52:56.83" dur="00:00:02.78">Egypt was growing very<br/>well during Mubarak&apos;s era,</p>
    <p begin="00:52:59.61" dur="00:00:00.67">it&apos;s shocking.</p>
    <p begin="00:53:00.28" dur="00:00:02.38">Egypt was growing<br/>between 5 and 6 percent</p>
    <p begin="00:53:02.66" dur="00:00:02.78">where America had<br/>1 percent growth,</p>
    <p begin="00:53:05.44" dur="00:00:03.40">so it&apos;s not just economic.</p>
    <p begin="00:53:08.84" dur="00:00:04.33">It&apos;s not just the economic cause<br/>that led to the Arab uprisings</p>
    <p begin="00:53:13.17" dur="00:00:03.29">but it&apos;s very much about<br/>dignity, social justice,</p>
    <p begin="00:53:16.46" dur="00:00:01.88">and human rights liberation.</p>
    <p begin="00:53:18.34" dur="00:00:03.09">So, I hope that answers<br/>your question.</p>
    <p begin="00:53:21.43" dur="00:00:04.31">&gt;&gt; Yeah, I would like to<br/>hear your evaluation of some</p>
    <p begin="00:53:25.74" dur="00:00:03.49">of the governments that<br/>are being pawned now,</p>
    <p begin="00:53:29.23" dur="00:00:02.30">what do you know<br/>about governments</p>
    <p begin="00:53:31.53" dur="00:00:02.51">that are being formed,<br/>what&apos;s your opinion?</p>
    <p begin="00:53:34.04" dur="00:00:02.52">&gt;&gt; What we know is that there<br/>hasn&apos;t been a revolution</p>
    <p begin="00:53:36.56" dur="00:00:03.06">in the sense of a<br/>revolution in the Arab world.</p>
    <p begin="00:53:39.62" dur="00:00:03.03">Those who are in power in<br/>Egypt continue to be in power</p>
    <p begin="00:53:42.65" dur="00:00:01.76">in Egypt, those who are in power</p>
    <p begin="00:53:44.41" dur="00:00:01.56">in Tunisia continue<br/>to be in power.</p>
    <p begin="00:53:45.97" dur="00:00:02.14">What I mean is the<br/>military, Mubarak</p>
    <p begin="00:53:48.11" dur="00:00:02.46">and Ben Ali were just the<br/>faces of that military.</p>
    <p begin="00:53:50.57" dur="00:00:03.16">Yes, that dictator is down but<br/>in reality the military was</p>
    <p begin="00:53:53.73" dur="00:00:05.48">in charge, perhaps in a year<br/>or two, or decade or two,</p>
    <p begin="00:53:59.21" dur="00:00:02.32">the military will really<br/>would lose its power.</p>
    <p begin="00:54:01.53" dur="00:00:06.33">Keep in mind Turkey for instance<br/>after it overthrew the sultan</p>
    <p begin="00:54:07.86" dur="00:00:04.51">of Turkey the Ottoman empire<br/>collapsed, it took decades</p>
    <p begin="00:54:12.37" dur="00:00:04.12">in Turkey to have complete free<br/>and fair elections that led</p>
    <p begin="00:54:16.49" dur="00:00:05.71">to the current government<br/>and the democracy.</p>
    <p begin="00:54:22.20" dur="00:00:02.47">There was a question<br/>there, yeah.</p>
    <p begin="00:54:24.67" dur="00:00:02.56">Let&apos;s start with dean.</p>
    <p begin="00:54:27.23" dur="00:00:01.27">Yes, ma&apos;am.</p>
    <p begin="00:54:28.50" dur="00:00:03.45">&gt;&gt; We have invited our live<br/>feed audience to tweet questions</p>
    <p begin="00:54:31.95" dur="00:00:03.27">that they might have and I&apos;d<br/>like to read one of them to you.</p>
    <p begin="00:54:35.22" dur="00:00:04.76">What is the connection of We Are<br/>All Khaled Saeed Facebook page</p>
    <p begin="00:54:39.98" dur="00:00:02.06">with the early protests if any?</p>
    <p begin="00:54:42.04" dur="00:00:02.58">&gt;&gt; Oh they&apos;re very instrumental.</p>
    <p begin="00:54:44.62" dur="00:00:03.78">We Are All Khaled Saeed was a<br/>Facebook page that was started</p>
    <p begin="00:54:48.40" dur="00:00:05.96">by 2 Egyptians, one of them<br/>is more famous than the other.</p>
    <p begin="00:54:54.36" dur="00:00:02.07">We did answer, we did<br/>talk about this earlier</p>
    <p begin="00:54:56.43" dur="00:00:05.78">but it allowed people to<br/>identify the message of protest,</p>
    <p begin="00:55:02.21" dur="00:00:03.02">the time of protest,<br/>the location of protest.</p>
    <p begin="00:55:05.23" dur="00:00:02.35">You cannot-- otherwise, you<br/>have-- you&apos;ll be having to,</p>
    <p begin="00:55:07.58" dur="00:00:01.34">you know, to write<br/>notes and passing them</p>
    <p begin="00:55:08.92" dur="00:00:02.30">around the neighborhood.</p>
    <p begin="00:55:11.22" dur="00:00:03.11">But because of social<br/>media, people said,</p>
    <p begin="00:55:14.33" dur="00:00:03.68">we&apos;re gonna wear black, we&apos;re<br/>gonna stand a few yards apart,</p>
    <p begin="00:55:18.01" dur="00:00:02.57">we won&apos;t talk to each other<br/>so that no one accuses</p>
    <p begin="00:55:20.58" dur="00:00:03.09">of congregating in public and<br/>we will do this repeatedly</p>
    <p begin="00:55:23.67" dur="00:00:02.94">over a period of few days.</p>
    <p begin="00:55:26.61" dur="00:00:02.24">So that&apos;s what the-- and<br/>continues to exist today,</p>
    <p begin="00:55:28.85" dur="00:00:01.51">We Are All Khaled Saeed.</p>
    <p begin="00:55:30.36" dur="00:00:02.00">So the role was quite decisive.</p>
    <p begin="00:55:32.36" dur="00:00:03.15">Just take the gentleman&apos;s<br/>question.</p>
    <p begin="00:55:35.51" dur="00:00:43.83">[ Inaudible Remark ]</p>
    <p begin="00:56:19.34" dur="00:00:03.38">&gt;&gt; Okay. The question was<br/>how come we missed it,</p>
    <p begin="00:56:22.72" dur="00:00:01.17">the Arab awakening?</p>
    <p begin="00:56:23.89" dur="00:00:05.20">And what if we slip in to a<br/>regression rather than progress?</p>
    <p begin="00:56:29.09" dur="00:00:02.51">How come we missed it?</p>
    <p begin="00:56:31.60" dur="00:00:02.15">The truth is all the<br/>signs were there.</p>
    <p begin="00:56:33.75" dur="00:00:02.72">People can choose<br/>to ignore them.</p>
    <p begin="00:56:36.47" dur="00:00:01.34">In fact, the countries</p>
    <p begin="00:56:37.81" dur="00:00:03.37">that received the best marks<br/>are the countries that had some</p>
    <p begin="00:56:41.18" dur="00:00:03.39">of the uprising, whether<br/>it was Egypt or Tunisia.</p>
    <p begin="00:56:44.57" dur="00:00:06.80">I think arrogance, you know,<br/>was a major factor at least</p>
    <p begin="00:56:51.37" dur="00:00:01.67">from the government&apos;s<br/>level, that they believe</p>
    <p begin="00:56:53.04" dur="00:00:02.47">that they were immune, they<br/>believe that they can continue</p>
    <p begin="00:56:55.51" dur="00:00:02.63">to repress their people, they<br/>believe that they can continue</p>
    <p begin="00:56:58.14" dur="00:00:02.40">to hire, you know, their<br/>cousins and their relatives</p>
    <p begin="00:57:00.54" dur="00:00:04.68">in the top positions and their<br/>little mafias over state.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:05.22" dur="00:00:02.99">And so, you know,<br/>there was a straw</p>
    <p begin="00:57:08.21" dur="00:00:01.44">that broke the camel&apos;s back.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:09.65" dur="00:00:01.60">Why was it straw<br/>number 1 million</p>
    <p begin="00:57:11.25" dur="00:00:02.77">and not straw number 9,995,000?</p>
    <p begin="00:57:14.02" dur="00:00:00.26">I&apos;m not sure.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:14.28" dur="00:00:02.00">But there was really<br/>one single issue</p>
    <p begin="00:57:16.28" dur="00:00:04.44">and perhaps it was a collection<br/>of factors that came together.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:20.72" dur="00:00:02.67">The other reason, do<br/>we-- will we regress?</p>
    <p begin="00:57:23.39" dur="00:00:01.68">I think in some countries,<br/>we will regress.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:25.07" dur="00:00:03.30">I think in some countries,<br/>for example, in Tunisia,</p>
    <p begin="00:57:28.37" dur="00:00:03.56">which is really a model,<br/>which was really a model state</p>
    <p begin="00:57:31.93" dur="00:00:02.90">for secularism and<br/>for women&apos;s rights.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:34.83" dur="00:00:03.08">I believe that if the<br/>Islamic party comes to power,</p>
    <p begin="00:57:37.91" dur="00:00:02.18">they might try to put--</p>
    <p begin="00:57:40.09" dur="00:00:03.19">you know, to put<br/>restrictions on women.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:43.28" dur="00:00:03.26">In Tunisia, women<br/>inherit equally as men.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:46.54" dur="00:00:02.69">Women&apos;s testimony at the<br/>court is equal to men.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:49.23" dur="00:00:01.76">Women can divorce<br/>their husbands.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:50.99" dur="00:00:02.80">So there&apos;s a lot of women<br/>empowerment in Tunisia.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:53.79" dur="00:00:02.74">This, we might see a<br/>regression in this but I believe</p>
    <p begin="00:57:56.53" dur="00:00:02.04">that it will just be a<br/>temporary regression.</p>
    <p begin="00:57:58.57" dur="00:00:02.24">Now that the Islamic<br/>parties have to play nice,</p>
    <p begin="00:58:00.81" dur="00:00:02.23">now that they have<br/>to play part--</p>
    <p begin="00:58:03.04" dur="00:00:03.17">they have to be a part<br/>of the political process.</p>
    <p begin="00:58:06.21" dur="00:00:02.19">They will-- you will see a<br/>lot of coalition building</p>
    <p begin="00:58:08.40" dur="00:00:03.77">and there&apos;ll be a lot of<br/>compromise and in the end,</p>
    <p begin="00:58:12.17" dur="00:00:04.04">people will not, people did<br/>not revolt against one dictator</p>
    <p begin="00:58:16.21" dur="00:00:01.40">to have another dictator<br/>stay there.</p>
    <p begin="00:58:17.61" dur="00:00:03.59">I think we are all<br/>conscious of this fact.</p>
    <p begin="00:58:21.20" dur="00:00:01.67">Did you have a question?</p>
    <p begin="00:58:22.87" dur="00:00:03.20">&gt;&gt; I just wanna comment<br/>about the Khaled Saeed,</p>
    <p begin="00:58:26.07" dur="00:00:00.98">[inaudible] Khaled Saeed.</p>
    <p begin="00:58:27.05" dur="00:00:04.57">It was also kind of a tool<br/>for expat Egyptians to kind</p>
    <p begin="00:58:31.62" dur="00:00:02.65">of follow what happened<br/>in Egypt, especially those</p>
    <p begin="00:58:34.27" dur="00:00:03.24">who were not on Twitter<br/>but also I was wondering</p>
    <p begin="00:58:37.51" dur="00:00:03.99">if you could talk about<br/>Palestine and what&apos;s next</p>
    <p begin="00:58:41.50" dur="00:00:03.50">for Palestine now that we--<br/>you know, Arabs are rising up</p>
    <p begin="00:58:45.00" dur="00:00:05.05">and actually doing something and<br/>they&apos;re going to place their bid</p>
    <p begin="00:58:50.05" dur="00:00:02.11">at the UN and stuff like that.</p>
    <p begin="00:58:52.16" dur="00:00:02.48">&gt;&gt; Okay, the question<br/>was, what about Palestine?</p>
    <p begin="00:58:54.64" dur="00:00:07.36">There&apos;s this<br/>notorious/infamous/gutsy move</p>
    <p begin="00:59:02.00" dur="00:00:01.89">by the Palestinian or not.</p>
    <p begin="00:59:03.89" dur="00:00:02.12">I shouldn&apos;t say Palestinian<br/>government,</p>
    <p begin="00:59:06.01" dur="00:00:05.33">by Mahmoud Abbas<br/>government to put in a bid</p>
    <p begin="00:59:11.34" dur="00:00:07.95">to create 194th state<br/>in the United Nations.</p>
    <p begin="00:59:19.29" dur="00:00:06.90">I think with the regards to<br/>Palestine, it is, you know,</p>
    <p begin="00:59:26.19" dur="00:00:02.46">it&apos;s going on for far too long.</p>
    <p begin="00:59:28.65" dur="00:00:02.81">It&apos;s been 63 years I think now.</p>
    <p begin="00:59:31.46" dur="00:00:03.98">Since some people were--<br/>some people became refugees.</p>
    <p begin="00:59:35.44" dur="00:00:03.89">But I believe that Arabs are<br/>equally to blame for this.</p>
    <p begin="00:59:39.33" dur="00:00:03.77">I believe that, you know, that<br/>Palestinians are treated badly</p>
    <p begin="00:59:43.10" dur="00:00:01.42">in the Arab countries.</p>
    <p begin="00:59:44.52" dur="00:00:02.75">And I believe that as an Arab,</p>
    <p begin="00:59:47.27" dur="00:00:02.38">I wanna take ownership<br/>of this issue.</p>
    <p begin="00:59:49.65" dur="00:00:03.56">I-- there are hundreds of<br/>thousands of Palestinians living</p>
    <p begin="00:59:53.21" dur="00:00:03.28">in ghettos in the Arab<br/>states where there was Egypt</p>
    <p begin="00:59:56.49" dur="00:00:04.07">or Syria or Lebanon or Jordan.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:00.56" dur="00:00:03.38">There are-- you know,<br/>we should demand</p>
    <p begin="01:00:03.94" dur="00:00:01.35">that they get treated better.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:05.29" dur="00:00:03.64">Why should another<br/>generation grow up in injustice</p>
    <p begin="01:00:08.93" dur="00:00:01.67">and living really<br/>in the conditions</p>
    <p begin="01:00:10.60" dur="00:00:02.48">that you wouldn&apos;t want<br/>animals to live in?</p>
    <p begin="01:00:13.08" dur="00:00:02.55">You know, crammed up in a city</p>
    <p begin="01:00:15.63" dur="00:00:01.63">that was built for<br/>5 or 10 thousand.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:17.26" dur="00:00:02.66">You have hundred-- 200,000<br/>people living there.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:19.92" dur="00:00:03.36">So first of all, Arabs must<br/>take ownership of this issue.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:23.28" dur="00:00:04.40">We must admit that we<br/>have failed Palestinians.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:27.68" dur="00:00:00.92">Number one.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:28.60" dur="00:00:02.02">Number two, you know,</p>
    <p begin="01:00:30.62" dur="00:00:04.45">Israel also must be held<br/>accountable for this issue.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:35.07" dur="00:00:02.80">Now, I don&apos;t know<br/>how it&apos;s gonna happen</p>
    <p begin="01:00:37.87" dur="00:00:02.37">but these two sides<br/>must sit together.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:40.24" dur="00:00:04.88">Ultimately, we&apos;d-- I don&apos;t think<br/>anybody wants this to continue.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:45.12" dur="00:00:02.35">We&apos;ve seen demands by<br/>people in the street.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:47.47" dur="00:00:02.59">You know, we&apos;ve seen<br/>pressure coming</p>
    <p begin="01:00:50.06" dur="00:00:01.11">from different governments.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:51.17" dur="00:00:02.71">The truth is, it&apos;s a card</p>
    <p begin="01:00:53.88" dur="00:00:03.09">that various governments are<br/>playing against each other.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:56.97" dur="00:00:01.56">I don&apos;t know the details.</p>
    <p begin="01:00:58.53" dur="00:00:03.91">I don&apos;t tweet about<br/>Palestine-Israeli conflict</p>
    <p begin="01:01:02.44" dur="00:00:03.35">because it&apos;s a minefield that<br/>I cannot put my mind around.</p>
    <p begin="01:01:05.79" dur="00:00:04.03">But all I know is-- you know,<br/>I work with the Jewish people</p>
    <p begin="01:01:09.82" dur="00:00:03.52">in university, I work with<br/>Arabs, I work with Christians,</p>
    <p begin="01:01:13.34" dur="00:00:03.09">I work for the Muslims,<br/>they can work well anywhere</p>
    <p begin="01:01:16.43" dur="00:00:02.85">in the world except<br/>in that region.</p>
    <p begin="01:01:19.28" dur="00:00:02.89">And so, there must be<br/>something with the water,</p>
    <p begin="01:01:22.17" dur="00:00:01.69">there must be something there.</p>
    <p begin="01:01:23.86" dur="00:00:02.45">I don&apos;t know what it is but<br/>someone should check it.</p>
    <p begin="01:01:26.31" dur="00:00:02.45">So hopefully, things-- I mean,</p>
    <p begin="01:01:28.76" dur="00:00:03.57">I remember writing an<br/>article saying that the--</p>
    <p begin="01:01:32.33" dur="00:00:02.73">what Osama bin Laden was<br/>calling for was, you know,</p>
    <p begin="01:01:35.06" dur="00:00:05.20">was a specific sect, a<br/>specific you know people</p>
    <p begin="01:01:40.26" dur="00:00:02.86">who follow a specific<br/>strand of Islam,</p>
    <p begin="01:01:43.12" dur="00:00:01.39">we&apos;re better than anybody else.</p>
    <p begin="01:01:44.51" dur="00:00:02.25">And the truth is no one is<br/>better than anybody else.</p>
    <p begin="01:01:46.76" dur="00:00:03.57">No Muslim, no Christian,<br/>no Jew, no Hindu,</p>
    <p begin="01:01:50.33" dur="00:00:02.05">no atheist is better<br/>than anybody else.</p>
    <p begin="01:01:52.38" dur="00:00:03.04">And once we admit to this<br/>fact, once we can see</p>
    <p begin="01:01:55.42" dur="00:00:02.56">through people rather than<br/>looking at their religion,</p>
    <p begin="01:01:57.98" dur="00:00:03.26">labeling them with their<br/>religion, I think we&apos;re gonna--</p>
    <p begin="01:02:01.24" dur="00:00:01.91">we&apos;re going to bypass<br/>this issue.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:03.15" dur="00:00:05.13">But I believe this conflict<br/>should not last any longer.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:08.28" dur="00:00:02.54">A lot of people disagree</p>
    <p begin="01:02:10.82" dur="00:00:02.22">with what the Abbas<br/>government is doing,</p>
    <p begin="01:02:13.04" dur="00:00:01.53">but there needs to be a jolt.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:14.57" dur="00:00:04.01">Someone needs to come<br/>and jolt the process</p>
    <p begin="01:02:18.58" dur="00:00:03.41">and maybe this is the-- maybe<br/>this is a jolt, I don&apos;t know.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:21.99" dur="00:00:04.18">Hopefully, it willcreate<br/>positive repercussions.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:26.17" dur="00:00:01.20">I&apos;m sorry, sir.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:27.37" dur="00:00:00.67">Go ahead.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:28.04" dur="00:00:01.27">&gt;&gt; My name is John<br/>Wilhelm [phonetic]</p>
    <p begin="01:02:29.31" dur="00:00:02.21">and I have a two-part question.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:31.52" dur="00:00:04.93">What impact did the previous<br/>demonstrations in Iran have</p>
    <p begin="01:02:36.45" dur="00:00:03.82">and what impact is the,<br/>particularly the success</p>
    <p begin="01:02:40.27" dur="00:00:04.76">of the Arab Spring likely to<br/>have on Iran in the future?</p>
    <p begin="01:02:45.03" dur="00:00:03.18">&gt;&gt; The question, what impact<br/>did the Iranian uprising</p>
    <p begin="01:02:48.21" dur="00:00:02.98">of 2009 have on the Arab Spring</p>
    <p begin="01:02:51.19" dur="00:00:01.83">and how would it<br/>affect the future.</p>
    <p begin="01:02:53.02" dur="00:00:03.82">First of all, the<br/>Iranians apparently tried</p>
    <p begin="01:02:56.84" dur="00:00:03.62">to elect someone<br/>other than Ahmadinejad</p>
    <p begin="01:03:00.46" dur="00:00:04.29">but then Ahmadinejad was chosen<br/>for them to be their president.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:04.75" dur="00:00:02.99">So, that was-- they<br/>didn&apos;t like that much.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:07.74" dur="00:00:01.76">So, hundreds and<br/>thousands of them went</p>
    <p begin="01:03:09.50" dur="00:00:03.94">out on the streets demanding,<br/>you know, their rights.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:13.44" dur="00:00:02.52">But they were brutally<br/>suppressed.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:15.96" dur="00:00:01.33">We know several things.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:17.29" dur="00:00:02.44">We know that the<br/>Iranian government shared</p>
    <p begin="01:03:19.73" dur="00:00:02.44">with the Syrian government<br/>methods</p>
    <p begin="01:03:22.17" dur="00:00:02.38">on identifying people<br/>on social media.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:24.55" dur="00:00:02.23">Remember how social<br/>media was used as a tool</p>
    <p begin="01:03:26.78" dur="00:00:01.75">of the counterrevolution?</p>
    <p begin="01:03:28.53" dur="00:00:05.11">Much of it is thanks to<br/>our friends in Tehran.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:33.64" dur="00:00:07.25">The- the second thing, the<br/>second aspect is, you know,</p>
    <p begin="01:03:40.89" dur="00:00:05.00">Iran today is worried about<br/>losing its ally in Syria</p>
    <p begin="01:03:45.89" dur="00:00:04.01">and it&apos;s trying its very<br/>best to keep him there.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:49.90" dur="00:00:02.25">And in fact, whenever you<br/>have the supreme leader</p>
    <p begin="01:03:52.15" dur="00:00:02.87">or the president talk<br/>about Arab uprisings,</p>
    <p begin="01:03:55.02" dur="00:00:02.22">he would say things<br/>like, in Lebanon,</p>
    <p begin="01:03:57.24" dur="00:00:02.15">in Yemen, in Egypt, in Tunisia.</p>
    <p begin="01:03:59.39" dur="00:00:02.30">He would name every<br/>country on the face</p>
    <p begin="01:04:01.69" dur="00:00:01.70">of the Earth except Syria.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:03.39" dur="00:00:03.07">Why? Because that&apos;s<br/>his best buddy.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:06.46" dur="00:00:03.09">In fact, Iran is<br/>the only friend left</p>
    <p begin="01:04:09.55" dur="00:00:03.35">to Bashar al-Assad in Syria.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:12.90" dur="00:00:02.94">I don&apos;t how this will affect,</p>
    <p begin="01:04:15.84" dur="00:00:02.88">all I know is the<br/>supreme leader&apos;s old.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:18.72" dur="00:00:03.22">They have elections<br/>in 2 years&apos; time</p>
    <p begin="01:04:21.94" dur="00:00:02.91">and Ahmadinejad cannot<br/>run for this election.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:24.85" dur="00:00:02.07">The Gulf States are<br/>very concerned</p>
    <p begin="01:04:26.92" dur="00:00:02.61">about the Iranian<br/>Nuclear Program.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:29.53" dur="00:00:02.79">Iran claims that it is peaceful.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:32.32" dur="00:00:02.87">My worry is, okay, I<br/>believe you, it&apos;s peaceful</p>
    <p begin="01:04:35.19" dur="00:00:02.41">but it doesn&apos;t have<br/>international,</p>
    <p begin="01:04:37.60" dur="00:00:02.67">you know, observers checking.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:40.27" dur="00:00:01.47">And what if Chernobyl happens</p>
    <p begin="01:04:41.74" dur="00:00:02.24">and we just live a few<br/>hundred kilometers from them.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:43.98" dur="00:00:02.52">That is if you believe<br/>it is peaceful.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:46.50" dur="00:00:03.40">So in the best case scenario,<br/>you&apos;re extremely worried.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:49.90" dur="00:00:02.15">Let alone the worst<br/>case scenario.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:52.05" dur="00:00:02.60">Yes ma&apos;am.</p>
    <p begin="01:04:54.65" dur="00:00:02.07">&gt;&gt; Anne Kutcher [phonetic],<br/>Political Science</p>
    <p begin="01:04:56.72" dur="00:00:04.12">in African Studies here and<br/>most of my work is on Africa</p>
    <p begin="01:05:00.84" dur="00:00:02.00">so I&apos;m very interested<br/>in the way</p>
    <p begin="01:05:02.84" dur="00:00:03.46">to which the Egyptian<br/>protest took place</p>
    <p begin="01:05:06.30" dur="00:00:04.10">because there are a lot<br/>of similarities rippling</p>
    <p begin="01:05:10.40" dur="00:00:04.45">down the continent, even<br/>in countries that are--</p>
    <p begin="01:05:14.85" dur="00:00:03.15">we would like to consider them<br/>already limited democracies</p>
    <p begin="01:05:18.00" dur="00:00:04.17">at least, so a lot of countries<br/>are watching what happens</p>
    <p begin="01:05:22.17" dur="00:00:02.70">in the Middle East<br/>but farther south.</p>
    <p begin="01:05:24.87" dur="00:00:02.54">And one thing I noticed<br/>from the coverage is</p>
    <p begin="01:05:27.41" dur="00:00:03.54">that the middle class in Egypt<br/>seems to be, I mean the military</p>
    <p begin="01:05:30.95" dur="00:00:03.17">in Egypt seems to be<br/>quite middle class.</p>
    <p begin="01:05:34.12" dur="00:00:02.62">They&apos;re in some middle<br/>class neighborhoods,</p>
    <p begin="01:05:36.74" dur="00:00:01.89">some of the gated<br/>communities seem</p>
    <p begin="01:05:38.63" dur="00:00:02.65">to be dominated by the military.</p>
    <p begin="01:05:41.28" dur="00:00:04.40">Now what I was wondering is does<br/>that predispose them to some</p>
    <p begin="01:05:45.68" dur="00:00:03.71">of the arguments made<br/>by the protesters?</p>
    <p begin="01:05:49.39" dur="00:00:03.31">Does that make the military<br/>therefore more sympathetic</p>
    <p begin="01:05:52.70" dur="00:00:03.95">to some of the arguments of the<br/>protesters or alternatively,</p>
    <p begin="01:05:56.65" dur="00:00:03.73">does it make them very<br/>concerned that since some</p>
    <p begin="01:06:00.38" dur="00:00:02.99">of those protesters are<br/>young and unemployed</p>
    <p begin="01:06:03.37" dur="00:00:03.94">that social movement<br/>could go on a direction</p>
    <p begin="01:06:07.31" dur="00:00:06.24">that is decidedly anti-property<br/>and anti-middle class?</p>
    <p begin="01:06:13.55" dur="00:00:03.51">&gt;&gt; I think that the<br/>military should be concerned,</p>
    <p begin="01:06:17.06" dur="00:00:01.10">very concerned.</p>
    <p begin="01:06:18.16" dur="00:00:05.57">The fact is they control 30<br/>percent of the Egyptian economy.</p>
    <p begin="01:06:23.73" dur="00:00:03.65">The military, what my worry<br/>is that they are always</p>
    <p begin="01:06:27.38" dur="00:00:02.34">in the background,<br/>however, today the head</p>
    <p begin="01:06:29.72" dur="00:00:03.30">of the Egyptian military<br/>is receiving world leaders,</p>
    <p begin="01:06:33.02" dur="00:00:02.10">he is getting cables<br/>sent to him,</p>
    <p begin="01:06:35.12" dur="00:00:02.53">he is being treated<br/>like the president.</p>
    <p begin="01:06:37.65" dur="00:00:02.90">Now, that he has had a<br/>taste of the good life,</p>
    <p begin="01:06:40.55" dur="00:00:04.08">is he going to give<br/>up this power?</p>
    <p begin="01:06:44.63" dur="00:00:03.58">Chances are he&apos;s gonna fight<br/>for it even though he is older.</p>
    <p begin="01:06:48.21" dur="00:00:02.36">We don&apos;t know the succession<br/>even within the military.</p>
    <p begin="01:06:50.57" dur="00:00:00.96">It&apos;s highly secretive.</p>
    <p begin="01:06:51.53" dur="00:00:04.22">People did not hear from the<br/>military during the Mubarak era.</p>
    <p begin="01:06:55.75" dur="00:00:05.03">Yes, a lot of them live<br/>in gated communities,</p>
    <p begin="01:07:00.78" dur="00:00:02.86">Egypt has huge unemployment<br/>issues,</p>
    <p begin="01:07:03.64" dur="00:00:05.13">a million people enter<br/>the job market every year,</p>
    <p begin="01:07:08.77" dur="00:00:01.92">there aren&apos;t enough<br/>jobs for them,</p>
    <p begin="01:07:10.69" dur="00:00:03.46">the military isn&apos;t<br/>capable of creating jobs.</p>
    <p begin="01:07:14.15" dur="00:00:01.33">How do you create jobs?</p>
    <p begin="01:07:15.48" dur="00:00:00.87">Egyptians are asking</p>
    <p begin="01:07:16.35" dur="00:00:01.94">for nationalization,<br/>is that a good idea?</p>
    <p begin="01:07:18.29" dur="00:00:03.87">Perhaps in some sectors, you<br/>need the private sector also,</p>
    <p begin="01:07:22.16" dur="00:00:02.84">entrepreneurship, a<br/>lot of these people,</p>
    <p begin="01:07:25.00" dur="00:00:02.55">you know the UN Human<br/>Development reports says</p>
    <p begin="01:07:27.55" dur="00:00:03.35">that by 2020, a hundred<br/>million jobs should be created</p>
    <p begin="01:07:30.90" dur="00:00:03.23">in the Arab world to keep the<br/>miserable unemployment levels</p>
    <p begin="01:07:34.13" dur="00:00:01.34">that we have today.</p>
    <p begin="01:07:35.47" dur="00:00:02.36">Just to keep them as we are<br/>25 percent unemployment,</p>
    <p begin="01:07:37.83" dur="00:00:03.53">you have to have a hundred<br/>million jobs by 2020.</p>
    <p begin="01:07:41.36" dur="00:00:02.48">The military in Egypt won&apos;t<br/>be able to create jobs.</p>
    <p begin="01:07:43.84" dur="00:00:05.35">They have to let civil society<br/>create jobs the best way they</p>
    <p begin="01:07:49.19" dur="00:00:02.43">see fit.</p>
    <p begin="01:07:51.62" dur="00:00:03.26">Are there any other questions?</p>
    <p begin="01:07:54.88" dur="00:00:00.63">Okay.</p>
    <p begin="01:07:55.51" dur="00:00:02.89">[ Inaudible Remark ]</p>
    <p begin="01:07:58.40" dur="00:00:01.77">&gt;&gt; I&apos;m sorry, I didn&apos;t see.</p>
    <p begin="01:08:00.17" dur="00:00:00.56">Yes, would you?</p>
    <p begin="01:08:00.73" dur="00:00:01.26">&gt;&gt; Why don&apos;t we make<br/>this the last question?</p>
    <p begin="01:08:01.99" dur="00:00:00.49">&gt;&gt; Last question.</p>
    <p begin="01:08:02.48" dur="00:00:01.03">Okay.</p>
    <p begin="01:08:03.51" dur="00:00:23.46">[ Inaudible Remark ]</p>
    <p begin="01:08:26.97" dur="00:00:02.20">&gt;&gt; Okay, the question was<br/>do you expect any uprising</p>
    <p begin="01:08:29.17" dur="00:00:04.60">in the Welfare Gulf States where<br/>we didn&apos;t hear much, Qatar,</p>
    <p begin="01:08:33.77" dur="00:00:02.78">Kuwait, U.A.E and<br/>the Saudi Arabia?</p>
    <p begin="01:08:36.55" dur="00:00:03.56">The answer is, every country</p>
    <p begin="01:08:40.11" dur="00:00:03.21">in the gulf is experiencing<br/>the Arab awakening,</p>
    <p begin="01:08:43.32" dur="00:00:02.67">and the Arab world is<br/>experiencing the Arab awakening</p>
    <p begin="01:08:45.99" dur="00:00:01.11">in a different way.</p>
    <p begin="01:08:47.10" dur="00:00:03.22">In some areas, you want a<br/>complete overhaul of the system.</p>
    <p begin="01:08:50.32" dur="00:00:02.39">In some states-- like<br/>Libya, for instance.</p>
    <p begin="01:08:52.71" dur="00:00:02.60">In other states where you<br/>have the military state</p>
    <p begin="01:08:55.31" dur="00:00:02.66">but then you have some society<br/>trying to advance agenda.</p>
    <p begin="01:08:57.97" dur="00:00:03.46">In other states like<br/>Morocco and Jordan and Oman,</p>
    <p begin="01:09:01.43" dur="00:00:02.95">the monarchs try to introduce<br/>reforms very quickly.</p>
    <p begin="01:09:04.38" dur="00:00:02.17">In Bahrain you have<br/>the government suppress</p>
    <p begin="01:09:06.55" dur="00:00:00.71">the uprising.</p>
    <p begin="01:09:07.26" dur="00:00:06.93">In Saudi Arabia, you had one<br/>man show up for a day of rage,</p>
    <p begin="01:09:14.19" dur="00:00:01.51">and fortunately he&apos;s detained.</p>
    <p begin="01:09:15.70" dur="00:00:01.61">The story is quite, quite sad.</p>
    <p begin="01:09:17.31" dur="00:00:03.84">Every time I think about<br/>it, it makes me very sad.</p>
    <p begin="01:09:21.15" dur="00:00:03.19">So, for instance, in the U.A.E.</p>
    <p begin="01:09:24.34" dur="00:00:04.26">and Qatar the local populations<br/>only make up 10 percent</p>
    <p begin="01:09:28.60" dur="00:00:01.58">of the entire population.</p>
    <p begin="01:09:30.18" dur="00:00:05.60">I mean in general living<br/>conditions are quite satisfied.</p>
    <p begin="01:09:35.78" dur="00:00:03.20">Yes, you cannot dismiss<br/>and say well, you know,</p>
    <p begin="01:09:38.98" dur="00:00:02.38">just because everyone&apos;s<br/>happy doesn&apos;t mean</p>
    <p begin="01:09:41.36" dur="00:00:04.51">that that you know there isn&apos;t<br/>some kind of political movement,</p>
    <p begin="01:09:45.87" dur="00:00:02.27">the U.A.E. has elections</p>
    <p begin="01:09:48.14" dur="00:00:05.68">for a non-legislative parliament<br/>coming up in the next couple</p>
    <p begin="01:09:53.82" dur="00:00:03.45">of days, will this<br/>satisfy people?</p>
    <p begin="01:09:57.27" dur="00:00:03.19">Some individuals wrote<br/>petitions in the Saudi Arabia,</p>
    <p begin="01:10:00.46" dur="00:00:02.62">in the U.A.E, and<br/>Qatar, in Kuwait.</p>
    <p begin="01:10:03.08" dur="00:00:02.13">People have been moving.</p>
    <p begin="01:10:05.21" dur="00:00:05.33">Like I told you, chances are<br/>some regimes will take longer</p>
    <p begin="01:10:10.54" dur="00:00:01.08">to adapt.</p>
    <p begin="01:10:11.62" dur="00:00:02.97">My personal opinion is, and<br/>I am on the record here,</p>
    <p begin="01:10:14.59" dur="00:00:02.35">my personal opinion is<br/>the only way forward</p>
    <p begin="01:10:16.94" dur="00:00:02.55">for all the monarchies in<br/>the Arab world if they want</p>
    <p begin="01:10:19.49" dur="00:00:04.76">to stay monarchies, would be to<br/>create constitutional monarchies</p>
    <p begin="01:10:24.25" dur="00:00:04.84">where there&apos;s much more<br/>people empowerment rather</p>
    <p begin="01:10:29.09" dur="00:00:04.83">than the absolute rule<br/>model that we have today.</p>
    <p begin="01:10:34.97" dur="00:00:03.92">&gt;&gt; Before we thank our<br/>speaker, I did want to make sure</p>
    <p begin="01:10:38.89" dur="00:00:03.74">that you know that you<br/>are all invited to join us</p>
    <p begin="01:10:42.63" dur="00:00:07.37">at a refreshment just<br/>outside of the great hall,</p>
    <p begin="01:10:50.00" dur="00:00:03.34">and we can continue the<br/>conversation more informally.</p>
    <p begin="01:10:53.34" dur="00:00:02.52">But I would like to give<br/>a very special thank you</p>
    <p begin="01:10:55.86" dur="00:00:00.84">for those insightful,<br/>informative,</p>
    <p begin="01:10:56.70" dur="00:00:00.78">wide-ranging candid remarks.</p>
    <p begin="01:10:57.48" dur="00:00:01.26">We are very honored to<br/>have you here with us today</p>
    <p begin="01:10:58.74" dur="00:00:01.02">for the Josh Rosenthal<br/>Lecture, thank you.</p>
    <p begin="01:10:59.76" dur="00:00:00.75">&gt;&gt; Thank you.</p>
    <p begin="01:11:00.51" dur="00:00:02.25">[ Applause ]</p>
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